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    bizerta — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 06:15 PM)

    Where do you get that the baby doesn't go to heaven?
    Because she does.
    When my niece was born, the minister told my sister that the niece was full of sin until she was baptized. The fire-and-brimstone rant implied (if not directly said) that niece would not go to heaven if she died before baptism. I wasn't buying it, but my sister scheduled the baptism for the next available Sunday.

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      Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 07:47 PM)

      That sounds like a Calvinist point of view, and although atheists like Calvinism it's not what Christianity in general says.
      All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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        bizerta — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 06:14 AM)

        Because there are so many versions of Christianity, I am reluctant to pick one as I might be wrong and God may punish me for picking the wrong one after I die.
        Because there are so many different religions, I am reluctant to pick one as I might be wrong and God may punish me for picking the wrong one.
        I can't decide.

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          Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 08:00 PM)

          Because there are so many versions of Christianity, I am reluctant to pick one as I might be wrong and God may punish me for picking the wrong one after I die.
          That's an atheist meme. No 'versions' disagree as to the essential things which come down to as Paul said "Jesus Christ and him crucified".
          http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/2-2.htm
          New International Version
          For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified.
          New Living Translation
          For I decided that while I was with you I would forget everything except Jesus Christ, the one who was crucified.
          GOD'S WORD
          Translation
          While I was with you, I decided to deal with only one subject-Jesus Christ, who was crucified.
          Commentary
          Matthew Henry Commentary
          2:1-5 Christ, in his person, and offices, and sufferings, is the sum and substance of the gospel, and ought to be the great subject of a gospel minister's preaching, but not so as to leave out other parts of God's revealed truth and will. Paul preached the whole counsel of God. Few know the fear and trembling of faithful ministers, from a deep sense of their own weakness They know how insufficient they are, and are fearful for themselves. When nothing but Christ crucified is plainly preached, the success must be entirely from Divine power accompanying the word, and thus men are brought to believe, to the salvation of their souls.
          All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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            bizerta — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 05:03 AM)

            As Colonel Jessup said, "You can't handle the truth".
            Not to worry. There are thousands of religions out there, I'm sure you have picked the correct one.

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              Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 05:19 PM)

              As Colonel Jessup said,
              Who???
              You weren't telling any truth, you were trolling.
              Game over.
              All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                bizerta — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 12:57 PM)

                It's a quote from, "A Few Good Men". Perhaps I should have quoted from, "Top of the Lake".

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                  Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 08:56 PM)

                  Perhaps I should have quoted from, "Top of the Lake".
                  Why?
                  All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                    bizerta — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 04:48 AM)

                    You must not be familiar with American films. I assumed you would be more familiar with something filmed in your neck of the woods.

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                      Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 31, 2017 10:05 PM)

                      I assumed you would be more familiar with something filmed in your neck of the woods.
                      I am not. Most of what's shown on TV here is American, but I don't watch it. However, your movie quote was not an adequate answer to whatever the question was - all the days later after your distraction, who knows what that was?
                      All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                        Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:36 AM)

                        You don't watch it, but claim to know everything about it.
                        It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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                          PoisonedDragon — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:48 AM)

                          Oh, but she
                          does
                          watch it. She only affects unfamiliarity with it as a way of disparaging it, and to deflect from having to comment meaningfully on it.
                          But she tacitly admits to watching it all the time. Like her crack about seeing collection plates on the Simpsons, on this thread. (The gist of her remark is that collection plates don't actually exist in churches; just in churches depicted on American television.
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                            Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 04:02 AM)

                            It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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                              Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:11 PM)

                              But she tacitly admits to watching it all the time. Like her crack about seeing collection plates on the Simpsons, on this thread.
                              PD lies again. "Tacitly" (i.e., PD's interpretation) isn't my saying something.
                              I don't watch he Simpsons, and haven't for 8-9 years since my last child grew up and left home, and I didn't have to watch it any more.
                              All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                                Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:27 PM)

                                https://resources.stuff.co.nz/content/dam/images/1/1/p/i/m/d/image.related.StuffLandscapeSixteenByNine.620x349.11pi41.png/1416359611213.png

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                                  bizerta — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 08:45 AM)

                                  your movie quote was not an adequate answer to whatever the question was
                                  The question was, "Who?". The answer I should have given was that Colonel Jessup was a character in the American film, "A Few Good Men".
                                  For what it's worth, "Top of the Lake" is a TV show filmed in Queenstown, NZ. Beautiful scenery, BTW. That, coupled with a fuel stop in Aukland on my way to Sydney, makes me want to visit there.

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                                    Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:08 PM)

                                    The question was, "Who?".
                                    No, it wasn't. This is all a silly distraction from the fact of your attempting an insult which fell flat because American movies are so forgettable.
                                    All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                                      Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 05:24 PM)

                                      Most people familiar with movies can quote A Few Good Men.
                                      But as you have demonstrated, you know sod all about movies.

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                                        Melanie000 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 07:44 PM)

                                        you know sod all about movies.
                                        So? Why is that a crime? I think what you mean is that I know sod all about
                                        American
                                        movies.
                                        There is a world outside the USA
                                        All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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                                          Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 12:00 AM)

                                          Dude. You're seriously posting on the wrong board if you are not familiar with movies that are well-known enough that people who haven't seen them can quote them.
                                          Of course, for someone who doesn't watch American movies, you sure seem to invent a lot of sh!t about them. You claim famous movies aren't famous simply because YOU haven't heard of them (i.e., Paths of Glory). You also seem to think people are stupid if they haven't heard of the more obscure alien races in Dr Who, or are unfamiliar with Babylon 5 references, two shows you are a fan of. While both shows are well-known, they are not so established with popular culture that making obscure references will be picked up on by non-fans. There's a world outside the canteen of your asylum.
                                          With Dr Who, most know the character, the TARDIS, Daleks, Cybermen, the music, but that's pretty much it. Babylon 5 won wide acclaim, but I seriously doubt anyone besides the fans could tell you much about it.
                                          You once claimed on this board that Americans had not heard of Peter Jackson, director of the Lord of the Rings movies, which together won 17 Oscars. I assume you have been familiar with him since his earliest movies, Bad Taste, Meet the Feebles, and Braindead? When I found out this was the guy making LOTR, I did an anime-style "WHAAAA?!!!"
                                          There's the rape shoes BS you apparently got from some book. Yet when asked to name examples, nada. The only time high heels were an issue I can recall is when Bryce Dallas Howard manages to run through jungle while still wearing them in Jurassic World. I've watched many sleazy exploitation titles, and at no point did high heels play a factor in being a victim. It might be true in non-Hollywood movies - the sleaziest movies I've watched have tended to be Japanese and Italian.

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