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    Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 04:22 AM)

    Uh, yes you did, lying whore.
    You claimed because Peter Jackson was not American, Americans hadn't heard of him.
    It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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      Progressive-Element — 9 years ago(February 02, 2017 04:22 AM)

      It is not enough that I succeed. Everyone else must fail.

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        Miscella — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 07:51 PM)

        Most people familiar with movies can quote A Few Good Men.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI's_100_Years100_Movie_Quotes
        #29.
        Anyone who says it's only well-known in America may as well say the same about the other 99. lol

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          quyst — 9 years ago(January 29, 2017 02:46 AM)

          Biz,
          The question was sarcastic
          No doubt.
          , but let's assume the repentance were sincere. So you're willing to give a rapist and murderer a free pass just because he repents?
          It isn't me that is giving the rapist/murderer a "free pass". It is God and it is because he has repented and confessed his sins and crimes to Christ and receives God's redeeming grace. Still he, first of all, must truly have to be sincere in repenting. That means coming to feel deep regret, remorse and anguish over the sins he's committed. That means accepting any and all earthly consequences of committing those crimes, even if he had "gotten away with it for many years". The truly repentant sinner would have no problem surrendering himself to the authorities and confessing his crimes and paying for them, even if it meant an earthly death penalty.
          What about the poor little girl that was murdered?
          What about the poor little girl that was murdered? If she had reached the age of accountability, where HER sins had convicted her? Then it was between her and God and, hopefully, she had confessed her sins to Christ and received redeeming grace. If she had not reached the age of accountability, then that is between God and her and, likely, she had not committed any condemning sins. But I do know this, God, while just and righteous, is also loving and merciful. I trust Him to do the correct thing where the girl is concerned, whether she is 12 or 2 months.
          Supposed he murdered a 2-month old that had never been baptized? He goes to heaven and she doesn't.
          God in his righteousness, justice, mercy and grace is going to deal with a 2 month old with all sense of love and justice. But why do you presume God's justice would be against a 2 month old? What sin(s) do you perceive a 2 month old being capable of committing?
          As I do not know God's specific plan for children who die before the age where they do wrong, know they are doing wrong and still do it, I don't know with absolute certainty what His plan for them is and how children are actually accommodated through Christ, according to the Scripture that says all fall short of God's glory, but what I do know of His character, is that however He deals with it, it will be in perfect alignment with His character.

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            Melanie000 — 9 years ago(January 28, 2017 07:31 PM)

            and then repent twenty years later on my death bed, God will give me a thumbs-up after I die?
            On;y if you're sincere, which is why y'all can't count on doing that. God is not a computer with which a certain input guarantees a particular result - but a person who knows if you're pretending.
            Collection plate - you've never been near a church have you? They have "collection plates" on the Simpsons, but I've not seen one in a church since I was 5 years old!
            All lined up - get your ducks in a row.

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              gladoscake — 9 years ago(January 30, 2017 10:36 PM)

              Yes God forgives any sin that is genuinely repented.
              That's all you need!
              Not every Christian believes that, however.

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                bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(January 26, 2017 11:42 PM)

                This probably isn't very helpful, but it really comes down to how a person conceptualizes God. If you think that God is Infinite Mercy, Infinite Compassion, and Infinite Wisdom, then you're likely to believe that God ultimately forgives your sins, if you are truly God-seeking and repentant.
                If you think that God loves only conditionally - like so many humans do - then of course His forgiveness becomes murky, opaque, and not secure.
                I can only suggest talking this over with a responsible party who sincerely practices his/her own spirituality. Also there are many books dealing with God's nature and the nature of divine forgiveness. You might just examine your own conscience and your own God-definition and see if you find an all-forgiving Person there. Part of it probably hinges on our ability to forgive ourselves. A lot of people can't do that, and they project that problem onto a God whom they would in other circumstances view as forgiving

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                  AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:09 AM)

                  What a load of cr@p!
                  Yes, or no?
                  and whyor why not?
                  especially in the light of this hypocritical alleged religion of love and forgiveness of this Jesus fellah?
                  wait Godwait son of Godwait God himself wait the Holy Ghost wait.

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                    quyst — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:46 PM)

                    Bast,
                    People who mistakenly come to believe that God is so loving and merciful, He overlooks sin, do themselves a great disservice and do those, who are lost, an even greater disservice.
                    God's love is not so much an infinite love, as it is the most perfect love. And the perfection of His love is perfectly expressed through His Son and through the cross.
                    Those people also tend to downplay the severity of the sin state. However, if sin weren't such a serious thing, then it wouldn't have required Y'Shua, His Son, suffering on the cross and dying for our sins. But it did. That's how serious the issue of sin is. All I need to know that sin is a serious thing is to look and see what it took to defeat it. All I need to know how deep and pure God's love is is to look, again, at the cross.
                    God is Merciful, Loving and Forgiving. But God is also Just, Holy and Righteous. You cannot separate any of these from the others. God's Mercy is measured by His Justice. His Justice is tendered by His Forgiveness. It's all connected and all part of who He is. Separating any one from the rest gives you an incomplete and errant representation of God and puts the person, who does so, in jeopardy of having established faith in THEIR idealization of God and not the God who truly is. Place your trust in the One, True God and believe Him and how He reveals Himself to you, through His Word. In doing that, you will find that you have the correct God.

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                      AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 01:01 PM)

                      It must be quite tricky 'second guessing' what God accepts or rejects, your whole life!
                      Especially when the Bible is so contradictory!
                      Place your trust in the One, True God and believe Him and how He reveals Himself to you, through His Word. In doing that, you will find that you have the correct God.
                      ..and which one would that be?
                      What religion or denomination?

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                        Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:15 AM)

                        All of them if we truly repent?
                        Yes, if you genuinely repent.
                        Read Isaiah 1:16-18
                        Especially vs.18
                        I've been struggling with this question for years and I've sometimes wondered if it's too late or unrealistic to expect forgiveness
                        No, never. .
                        Don't feel it's hopeless.
                        Satan wants you to think that way, though.
                        Our efforts to atone, even if sincere, are no guarantee to be accepted.
                        If you've done bad things, how would you demonstrate that your repentance
                        is
                        sincere?
                        By trying real hard to
                        not do them again
                        ! Pray for help, and
                        then work
                        in harmony
                        with your prayers
                        !
                        For example, if getting drunk is a problem, stop going to bars! You may need further help. If help is available but you arbitrarily refuse it, you're defeating your prayer, and God's help.
                        Although I believe God is merciful and forgiving, there is no way to know for sure, how much.
                        Sure there is! Jehovah sent His Son to sacrifice for us, and Jesus willingly came! They love us, and will help if we listen to them.
                        www.jw.org
                        or
                        https://tv.jw.org/#en/home

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                          AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:24 AM)

                          Yet more, illogical cr@p!
                          Are you seriously saying that people of all faiths, who either don't know of your version of Jesus(whatev) are doomed because YOUR version of what you think is right is not adhered to?
                          What gives you the temerity to speak for all the thoughts, beliefs and non- beliefs of billions of people who live and have lived on this earth, and call them wrong or ill-informed and say that there is, in YOUR view a price for eternal pain and torment to be paid, because of this?
                          For beep's sake can't you realised that you have been brainwashed with this beep so that you don't leave your faith and stop paying your tithes or whatever to a fake church?
                          You people are outrageous!
                          What gives you the right?
                          As an atheistic agnostic I have no rights, agenda and no expectations except to look for truth for ALL people and respect the rights and beliefs of moderates in ANY religion who don't wish to impose it on others.
                          Believe what you like butt don't impose it on others.
                          This is actually the mantra of all atheists and agnostics, despite the religious who can only view us in terms of their own fanatical fallacious and delusional beliefs.

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                            Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 12:30 AM)

                            I guess I pushed your button! Wow!
                            Did I say anything to discredit anyone? No!
                            Take a pill, sleep it off.
                            (Maybe you're already on drugs..that would explain it)
                            Curious, what specifically did I say to rile you?
                            www.jw.org
                            or
                            https://tv.jw.org/#en/home

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                              AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 01:03 AM)

                              No, I pushed your button, because, as JW you hear this all the time and it is water off a duck's back.
                              In this case I am please to say that the truth range true, hence your reaction to my words on a message board page.
                              You know all those people whose doors you knock on , who are polite?
                              My post is what they are REALLY saying about your delusional nonsense.

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                                Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 02:51 PM)

                                No, not quite. You, maybe.
                                But there are many who listen to us and are receptive, enough so that about 5,300
                                every week
                                become baptized Witnesses of Jehovah!
                                Yippee!
                                Have a good day, my cousin.
                                www.jw.org
                                or
                                https://tv.jw.org/#en/home

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                                  AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 07:58 PM)

                                  Yes, butt in your country people many of the same gullible stupid people voted for Trump!

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                                    Tas-1010 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 09:18 PM)

                                    We don't vote, in any country we live, And the majority of JW's live outside the US, anyways.
                                    www.jw.org
                                    or
                                    https://tv.jw.org/#en/home

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                                      AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 09:21 PM)

                                      Did I say that?
                                      I said the same gullible people voted in that way as would be JW's.

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