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Is the Virgin Birth considered rape?

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    LostKiera — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 08:27 AM)

    Not complaining, just find it interesting. Even from a non-sceptic point of view, it's interesting to consider why certain ideas appear in some gospels and not others.

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      smithjgs — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 08:32 AM)

      There is a common misconception that the Gospels mirror each other. They do not.
      In fact, they are distinctly different from each other with only a few unifying accounts.
      In short, it's not unusual at all for the Gospels to have different parts of the story since they were written for different audiences.
      If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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        LostKiera — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 08:38 AM)

        From a Christian perspective, why do you think Mark and John left out the birth narrative? Do you think they were not aware of it, or that they considered it unimportant?

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          smithjgs — 9 years ago(January 01, 2017 09:21 AM)

          From a Christian perspective, why do you think Mark and John left out the birth narrative? Do you think they were not aware of it, or that they considered it unimportant?
          Quite the opposite. It's because it had already been chronicled.
          No one was ignorant to the account (John was an apostle & Mark would have gotten his information from Peter) and there are decades worth of time difference between Matthew & John.
          John's message was more of an encouragement/enlightenment letter to an established Christian Church.
          Luke was a more investigative accounting of Jesus' life with Acts serving as a sequal for the birth of Christianity.
          Matthew was written for Jews & Mark for Gentiles who couldn't care less about how Jesus fits into Jewish prophecy (the primary reason Jesus' birth is so important). The highlights of Mark were regarding Jesus' ministry and his functions as the Messiah.
          If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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            Eva_Yojimbo — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:36 PM)

            Probably not if it's a God doing the raping.
            Leda only needed some of Batman's Swan repellent.
            warriorspirit
            : if the penis is used as a pencil holder we'll incur a cost.

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              OldSamVimes — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 06:35 AM)

              Just thinking..
              It would have been much easier for people to believe in the divine birth of Jesus if God had 'willed' Joseph pregnant instead of Mary.

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                Cademon — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:01 AM)

                I am the Lords servant, Mary answered. May your word to me be fulfilled. Then the angel left her.
                Sounds like consent to me.

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                  eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:11 AM)

                  I am the Lords servant, Mary answered. May your word to me be fulfilled. Then the angel left her.
                  Sounds like consent to me.
                  Trust me the books have been cooked


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                    quyst — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:15 AM)

                    Because you say so? LOL

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                      eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:19 AM)

                      Because you say so? LOL
                      Countless translations, edits, omissions, additions over thousands of years bringing us to dozens of various different contemporary volumes notwithstanding
                      yes.


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                        quyst — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:04 AM)

                        LOL - Eddy thinks the reason the various translations and editions exist is because they are presenting vastly different versions contextually. LOL
                        Such is the mind of the naive secularist who desires to justify his unbelief.
                        He fails to understand that the different translations present the same Scripture in alternate styles of presentation. He fails to see that updates (edits) to versions/translations of Scripture are primarily required because of colloquial changes in language from one generation to the next.
                        Poor, deluded secularist.

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                          AbsolutelyThoughtfulGoz — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:26 PM)

                          ^ ^
                          Such is the mind of the naive theist who desires to justify his belief

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                            CashIsSupreme — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:05 AM)

                            Poor you. Are you triggered again, little fella?
                            EDIT: Wow, you had to go back and add 'people of color'. Don't be transparent or anything.


                            Hunters have a perverted gun fetish, so sayeth a terrorist supporting kiddie-fiddler.

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                              gladoscake — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:31 AM)

                              I am the Lords servant, Mary answered. May your word to me be fulfilled. Then the angel left her.
                              Sounds like consent to me.
                              Somehow that doesn't sound like "Lord, i'm ready for your D" to me

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                                CashIsSupreme — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:01 AM)

                                Yeah, power dynamics wouldn't play a role at all where God is concerned. He and Mary were definitely of equal standing there.


                                Hunters have a perverted gun fetish, so sayeth a terrorist supporting kiddie-fiddler.

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                                  Lowtax-86 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 07:36 AM)

                                  God: Mary was pretty drunk, but she totally wanted it brah. *bro fist"
                                  You're standing on my neck

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                                    gladoscake — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 08:26 AM)

                                    In another thread you said a fetus is just a parasite.
                                    Indeed.
                                    How is nonsexually transmitting a parasite into a woman rape?
                                    How do you know it was non-sexual? don't you know the mysterious works of our lord and savior? I wonder how good in bed he is

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                                      CashIsSupreme — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:09 AM)

                                      So you're saying a fetus is not a parasite, therefore it was rape. Okay then.


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                                        glynnpadraic — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:17 PM)

                                        To quote Mary: "Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it done unto me according to thy word." That was her consent

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