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    coachdobbs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:59 AM)

    The New York Catholic Catechism, under: Pope, says, "The Pope takes the place of Jesus Christ on earthby divine right the pope has supreme and full power in faith and morals over each and every pastor and his flock. He is the true Vicar of Christ, the head of the entire church, the father and teacher of all Christians He is the infallible ruler, the founder of dogmas, the author of and the judge of councils; the universal ruler of truth, the arbiter of the world, the supreme judge of heaven and earth, the judge of all, being judged by one, God himself on earth."
    That's what Catholics believe about the Pope
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      lennys_here — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 01:41 PM)

      link?
      The Lord hides his gifts in plain sight

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        smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 08:40 AM)

        Two answers:

        1. Anyone hat calls themselves Christian, I take them at their word. After all, I have no power to judge them on that
        2. I consider a Christian to be one who follows Christian Doctrine as found within Scripture. If they wish to add additional stuff to those guidelines (Dogma), since there are only a handful of requirements, then more power to them. I just don't feel the need to go along with it.
          With those two things in mind, if Catholics think of themselves as Christians, then so be it. However, I do not agree with a lot of their teachings since they aren't in Scripture and they aren't something I care to follow.
          If this is Locke, then who's in there?
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          eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:10 AM)

          1. I consider a Christian to be one who follows Christian Doctrine as found within Scripture.
            And you believe this is completely open to interpretation kindova 'anything goes' view of Christianity.

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            smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:13 AM)

            And you believe this is completely open to interpretation kindova 'anything goes' view of Christianity.
            Scripture is pretty clear.
            Most anything cherry picked can easily be explained and usually on the same page.
            You should know that by now.
            If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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              eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:17 AM)

              Scripture is pretty clear.
              Sure, that's why there are never any disagreements about it's intent take the current example of how the Protestants and Catholics agree on everything


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                smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:23 AM)

                The disagreements in intent are a result of dogma.
                The difference between Protestant and Catholics are usually arguments regarding the dogma since there isn't much to argue about regarding Scripture.
                There's nothing confusing about Christian Doctrine.
                You can try to test me again if you like.
                Of course, it's kinda hijacking the point of the topic.
                If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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                  eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:27 AM)

                  You can try to test me again if you like.
                  To watch you fail again? I merely call you out for the enjoyment of others.
                  The difference between Protestant and Catholics are usually arguments regarding the dogma since there isn't much to argue about regarding Scripture.
                  There's nothing confusing about Christian Doctrine.
                  'k, you have a nice day now


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                    smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:28 AM)

                    To watch you fail again?
                    Right. And then you woke up from your delightful dream
                    If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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                      eddyhops — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:29 AM)

                      Right. And then you woke up from your delightful dream
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^irony^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


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                        cham313 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:37 AM)

                        The difference between Protestant and Catholics are usually arguments regarding the dogma since there isn't much to argue about regarding Scripture.
                        Does that mean that the concept of the Trinity falls under dogma?

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                          smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 10:42 AM)

                          Defintely.
                          Even if one were to think that the trinity is addressed in Scriptures, there's no mandate for it.
                          For example, I think the notion of a trinity is silly, but if I'm wrong there is no repercussions for it. Scripture does not require me to believe anything other than Jesus being the son and God being the father.
                          That's what I practice. However, most religions put a far stronger emphasis on it than Doctrine does.
                          If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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                            cham313 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:22 AM)

                            Good, at least you have a consistent viewpoint. You may have mentioned it in the past, but would you mind my asking what denomination you belong to?

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                              smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:33 AM)

                              I'm non-denominational. I looked for the church that matched the Bible basics.
                              I'm not one for added fluff.
                              If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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                                Isapop — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 11:52 AM)

                                what denomination you belong to?
                                I looked for the church that matched the Bible basics.
                                And having looked, which church do you conclude matched the Bible basics? (It's really not right to keep cham in suspense like this.)

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                                  smithjgs — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 12:32 PM)

                                  Just one more left to go.
                                  I'm never giving you the name of my church. I'm not crazy.
                                  If this is Locke, then who's in there?

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                                    Isapop — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 01:08 PM)

                                    I'm never giving you the name of my church. I'm not crazy.
                                    Cham merely asked for the
                                    denomination
                                    , that's all. And, obviously, it's no secret to some of us on this board. But you still love to play coy (to put it politely) with the others on this board.

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                                      YouMightRabbitYouMight — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 02:13 PM)

                                      It's crazy to admit the denomination of your church?
                                      The destruction of the wicked is literal and as a collective they make up the heavens and the earth that people think don't change.

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                                        Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 01:06 PM)

                                        I looked for the church that matched the Bible basics.
                                        http://www.church-of-christ.org/who

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                                          lennys_here — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 09:23 AM)

                                          Catholics are the original Christians and the two terms are inseparable.
                                          Protestant denoms are autonomous in their accountability, so many Pastors preach what they want. Usually a learned behaviour passed down.
                                          The Lord hides his gifts in plain sight

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