No, I'm assuming that for the sake of argument.
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Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:16 PM)
No, I'm assuming that for the sake of argument.
How would you respond if I said the Pope is no more or less closer to God than a wino in a gutter? -
Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:22 PM)
When you admit that one is enough to negate "all", I'll ask about those large numbers of Catholics who gather in the streets every time the Pope is in town. You know the ones. A lot of them hold things in the air - like scarves and even babies - hoping to have them blessed by a wave of the Pope's hand
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Blade_TillTheEnd — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:30 PM)
I'll ask about those large numbers of Catholics who gather in the streets every time the Pope is in town. You know the ones. A lot of them hold things in the air - like scarves and even babies - hoping to have them blessed by a wave of the Pope's hand
Stop with the red herrings already.
I have no interest in refraining from my dishonesty and stupidity.
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Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:36 PM)
It's all under the same umbrella. Either most (if not all) Catholics believe the Pope has the power to bless scarves and glasses of water and make them holy, or they don't. Taking issue with the method, be it by touch or the wave of his hand, is the red herring here.
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Blade_TillTheEnd — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:38 PM)
Do you understand the difference between blessing something and worshipping it? Because the Pope blesses something doesn't back up your argument that Catholics worship that item, moron.
That's a rhetorical question.
I have no interest in refraining from my dishonesty and stupidity.
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Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 05:00 PM)
One Catholic who worships a glass of water from which the Pope sipped, another who worships a scarf he touched, and large masses of people gathered around the Pope hoping to have something blessed by him (either by touch or by the wave of his hand) is more than enough to refute your assertion that Catholics don't worship the Pope nor do they worship what he touches.
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Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 05:08 PM)
No, I really do take a lot of issues with the Catholic church, and one of my biggest gripes is the whole chain of command thing.
I really do believe there is only one who bridges the gap between Man and God, and that's Jesus Christ Himself.
I really don't kneel before any man in a big hat, and I really don't worship the things he blesses, either by touch or a wave of his hand.
And you really don't have to believe me.
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graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 02:46 PM)
I always thought of catholics as not only christians but as the default version of christians. I was like 10 before I even started to realise there were other types of christian, and I thought they were like some weird offshoot of catholics.
It was only maybe ten years ago that I encountered the whole "catholics aren't christians" meme. It struck me as a very bizarre thing for people to believe, but it actually seems quite common on the net. Mostly from fundy types trying to big up their version, or such is my impression.
If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god. -
Miscella — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 03:56 PM)
I always thought of catholics as not only christians but as the default version of christians. I was like 10 before I even started to realise there were other types of christian, and I thought they were like some weird offshoot of catholics.
Didn't you tell me recently you were raised Baptist? Hmm. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else -
graham-167 — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 04:22 PM)
No I didn't tell you that.
My family were nominally catholic when I was born. They never paid much attention to it, and dropped it completely when I was maybe five years old.
As far as religion is concerned, I wasn't really raised anything at all. Thankfully.
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CODY_Jarrett_jr — 9 years ago(December 30, 2016 02:53 PM)
I personally classify Catholics as Christian and think the sincere ones will be saved.
Not as convinced by the RCC however. I'm hugely skeptical of the churches early origins, history, corruption, political motivations and consider some of it's core doctrines contradictory to what the bible teaches. -
lennys_here — 9 years ago(December 31, 2016 06:58 AM)
There is no question about the corruption that was and is in the RCC. Any organization is corrupted in some way. It doesn't take from the core principles of the faith.
Did your account get nuked?
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