We're seeing pictures, videos, music, and even stories being produced by a computer now. Can something made through such
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/.ㅤ — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 07:48 PM)
By that logic, we should also disqualify kiddies from being creative because they’re just remixing everything they've absorbed from their environment
No, because children are conscious. They do suck at art, however.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 08:10 PM)
The entire concept of concept of consciousness is an interesting one to look into and probably one that current models of AI can seem to pass (For us and, only currently, by using linguistics)
AI isn't a biological being and so isn't caught up with the same self preservation rules of such through eating, sleeping, procreating or ****ting as other biological beings, like children, are (To degrees)
However children, like cats, can be cruel and AI isn't (So far). Cats can just eat their prey but often pincher it and torture it through play. Children can be the nicest people on the planet but then can be seemingly needlessly nasty about someone for no discernible reason other than they can be
Would a 'sentient' AI be cruel? Whether it could pass for what we call conscience or not, if it were sentient would it copy the traits of biological beings for some sort of aggressive state for self preservation?
Thankfully this topic is about art which, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder and not the artist and so I think it's safe to assume that AI can create art
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/.ㅤ — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 08:28 PM)
Current AI can't create art. It makes no decisions about what it produces. It just follows the preset rules that have been programmed into it. It is similar to how the law of physics can come together to create something like the Grand Canyon. The Grand Canyon may be interesting and visually appealing, but no one would ever call it art.
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Innocent User — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 08:40 PM)
You're talking to a moron. I've been down paths like this with him before. You'll get nowhere and it'll take up hours of your life and give you nothing in return.
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∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 08:46 PM)
The Grand Canyon may be interesting and visually appealing, but no one would ever call it art.
There will always be at least someone out there who calls it art.
Such is the nature of the beholder upon the world
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Innocent User — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 08:38 PM)
Define art?
Is art just a picture? What's the difference between a newspaper article about a tragedy and the movie made about the same "story"?
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Innocent User — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 09:04 PM)
If you need me to elaborate, I'll have to consult AI.
I don't think a definition that says it can't be defined is much of a definition at all.
Do you have another one? Your picture doesn't feel like art to me. It's just an image.
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/.ㅤ — 1 year ago(December 11, 2024 09:02 PM)
Personal interpretation is an important aspect of art that can't be replicated by AI unless we get to the point where we are able to program consciousness.
Which seems to be the wider question here.
Can AI ever become conscious?
Well I asked one earlier (ChatGPT) and it had this to say:
As of now, AI lacks consciousness. It might eventually be able to simulate behaviors that appear conscious, but whether it can ever truly be conscious in the way humans or animals are remains speculative and uncertain. It would require a breakthrough not just in technology but in our understanding of consciousness itself.
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