so how long does DVD have until it dies the way VHS did? (as far as stores not carrying tapes anymore or stores not sell
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dangus — 5 years ago(December 02, 2020 08:29 PM)
Can't edit, so I'll add:
The original film elements may have been lost, so only video tape versions exist. The show may be been shot and edited on video, so 480i or 540i is as good as it gets. Worse, some broadcasters regarded TV shows as disposable and recycled the video tapes. There are episodes of Doctor Who that only survive because copies went to TV networks in other countries and weren't returned.
I'm glad to see that Miami Vice has a good Blu-ray release, in the correct aspect ratio. The DVDs looked like they were made from the same video tape copies used for TV syndication, far short of the best resolution and colour fidelity that DVD is capable of. Not that it mattered so much on a 27" interlaced CRT TV.
If your particular favourite show only exists on DVDs, try watching it on a small tube TV to recreate the original experience. Or maybe there's software for smart TVs that will crop the video to simulate the overscan of CRT TVs, and frame it within an image of a vintage TV set. -
Icecutter — 10 years ago(January 31, 2016 01:55 PM)
well you can buy tapes from ebay or something like that, but stores dont officially have them. same with VCRs
and some tapes are very expensive, collector item tapes.
and no company is making either one of them, no company is making tapes either, so when tapes start to damage, there will be no replacement, you know?
I can go to my local £1-Shop, Wilkinsons or Argos and pick up blank cassette tapes
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persen1 — 10 years ago(February 04, 2016 03:20 AM)
VHS and audio cassettes are still being produced, just not in the same quantity and by as many as they used to.
Depending on brand, it could easily have been produced in 2015.
VHS tapes are still being produced under the brand names Maxell, TDK and Rca.
All those on eBay offering blank VHS tapes for a high price, is just screwing you over.
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jimthing1 — 10 years ago(February 14, 2016 04:43 PM)
To be honest, the PHYSICAL item as a source of distribution is dying out slowly but surely, as Internet broadband speeds increase slowly but surely worldwide.
When one can currently buy a single ~$200 external hard drive with ~8TBs available storage on it, which can store ~250-500 FULL BD quality films on it (nevermind the ~2000-3000 films in simplified HD versions, if ripped/downloaded). It doesn't take a genius to work out where the near future is going: computer based storage, and not small physical items (vhs/dvd/bd/etc). -
Speed_Daemon — 10 years ago(February 14, 2016 07:22 PM)
I agree that home storage (HDD, SSD; not optical) is the next stage. Still, maintaining a RAID array at home is mostly for pros and other geeks. In the longer term it will be more convenient and cost effective to use Internet "cloud" storage to keep personal media.
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jimthing1 — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 06:59 AM)
When I said "~8TB's" that does
not
mean RAID at all HDD's currently are up to 8TB's
each
, so I'm talking about a single off-the-shelf
single
external hard drive, which one just plugs straight into your computer.
But yes, one could buy a duo external RAID. But it's hardly geeky, it's just a switch on the back of many models: R0 (striped: ALL disk storage)/ R1 (mirrored: HALF disk storage). Set and forget.
Cloud is another possible option, but even further away in timescale, until both broadband speeds increase (especially upload, as most companies offer asynchronous connections, e.g. 100 down/10 UP), and the cost decreases further (it's currently too expensive for most compared to local storage, when wanting larger quantities).
Anyway, the point isn't about the disks, it's a wider one about the conveniences computer-based storage offers over small plastic disks that take-up physical space, are future mass landfill, and can only be in one place at one time, compared to on computer where they can be accessed and used in many places by many users simultaneously or by a single user from any place they happen to be at (e.g. Plex, Kodi, etc.). -
Speed_Daemon — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 09:27 AM)
In my world it goes without saying that if you're going to keep terabytes of important files in online storage, that some form of redundancy is necessary to keep a single HDD failure from meaning total loss. And, knowing the cost of DLT or other tape-based backup products capable of storing 8TB+ offline, it's plainly obvious that the same price points that made HDD storage so attractive in the first place also makes it the logical choice for data redundancy. That means a redundant array of inexpensive disks.
I don't mean to beat you up on this, but your own misunderstanding of how the most basic RAID types work proves my point about it's not something that the dilettante can do easily. Thinking "it's RAID; I can set it and forget it" is
precisely
why less technical users are going to get into trouble.
I reiterate my point that less technical users will be better served by using "the cloud" so that they don't have to worry about HDD failures, full stop. It also greatly enhances their ability to use their content no matter where they are. When 5G cellular data comes online, that's going to be what everyone will want to do. Heck, many want to do it right now!
It's also worth noting that multiple access is a function of the operating system, not the storage medium. Legally it's a matter of licensing. -
jimthing1 — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 09:37 AM)
Erm, yeah, I'm an experienced network engineer, so good luck with your supercilious explanations to me; I was obviously simplifying, rather than writing an essay on a non-tech board on all the various redundancies one should/could have, depending on budget and need.
The point being made is NOT ABOUT THE TECH one could or should use. It's about the fact that such tech CAN be used in the first place and how it betters the other small item physical storage mediums available. -
jon-gwynne — 10 years ago(February 25, 2016 01:27 PM)
Most consumers are going to prefer "on demand" to local storage. That way, they can watch what they want, when they want, without having to go to the store to buy it or worry about where they're going to keep it.
I've got loads of DVDs and BD at home but I'm buying far fewer than I used to. The practice of buying films or TV shows on disk is going the way of getting a membership at the local video-rental store.
Sure, someone could buy a user-friendly, hot-swappable RAID storage solution. But the real question is: Why?
As solid-state drives get larger/cheaper, they will replace magnetic drives in PCs.
As for media - why not just get your music/video online?
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Speed_Daemon — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 04:00 PM)
Most consumers are going to prefer "on demand" to local storage. That way, they can watch what they want, when they want, without having to go to the store to buy it or worry about where they're going to keep it.
This is a good time to revisit this, as there is news.
First, let's dispel the myth that getting to keep a copy of something always entails "going to the store". It does not. Everything that I have on local storage was delivered to me over wires, either as a QAM cable or ATSC OTA TV stream, or as a file over the Internet. I didn't go to a store once, though I have a few optical discs that Amazon delivered to me.
The news is that, like Amazon already does, Netflix is moving towards local storage as a way for their customers to watch content when they're not connected to a high bit-rate Internet connection. People who spend long periods of time in planes, trains and automobiles need local storage because existing wireless coverage simply isn't even close to being everywhere.
I've been converting files from my TiVo boxes for travel use for over a decade, and more recently, Dish has been offering "store and forward" as a service to their users through an app. You can expect more of this as people take their mobile devices beyond the reach of all "online" networks. -
mikekuhlman-415-393642 — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 11:48 AM)
As long as DVD keeps making MONEY for the movie studios and networks. When the MONEY stops rolling for DVD because every consumer in the world is buying blu-rays, the movie studios and networks will stop making DVDs. And by that time, blu-rays will be so cheap, will be selling for $1, so who cares?
I give DVD longer than VHS and VHS probably lasted 30 years. That means at least the year 2027. -
Speed_Daemon — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 03:48 PM)
There's another angle that just came to me. Every once in a while the fact that US nuclear launch computers are not network connected ("air-gapped" is a popular if silly term in popular usage) and use old-fashioned floppy disks to store their machine code on. The uninformed usually make a joke of it, but the fact is that it's a proven technology that's been completely debugged, and not modernizing is done on purpose for security.
I'd wager that the DVD will find a similar niche. As with old floppy disks, the DVD is advanced enough to be reliable, but not so advanced as to introduce any security problems. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the the US DoD and other state security agencies worldwide have already purchased DVD pressing (not just a WORM drive) facilities to use for archiving and moving data that's too sensitive to send over cables. It makes sense, after all the DoD makes its own floppy disk media now. -
Woodyanders — 5 years ago(November 24, 2020 09:33 PM)
I keep finding all kinds of films on DVD for just a buck at Dollar Tree, so the format has definitely been relegated to the sidelines at this point in time.
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