so how long does DVD have until it dies the way VHS did? (as far as stores not carrying tapes anymore or stores not sell
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Speed_Daemon — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 09:27 AM)
In my world it goes without saying that if you're going to keep terabytes of important files in online storage, that some form of redundancy is necessary to keep a single HDD failure from meaning total loss. And, knowing the cost of DLT or other tape-based backup products capable of storing 8TB+ offline, it's plainly obvious that the same price points that made HDD storage so attractive in the first place also makes it the logical choice for data redundancy. That means a redundant array of inexpensive disks.
I don't mean to beat you up on this, but your own misunderstanding of how the most basic RAID types work proves my point about it's not something that the dilettante can do easily. Thinking "it's RAID; I can set it and forget it" is
precisely
why less technical users are going to get into trouble.
I reiterate my point that less technical users will be better served by using "the cloud" so that they don't have to worry about HDD failures, full stop. It also greatly enhances their ability to use their content no matter where they are. When 5G cellular data comes online, that's going to be what everyone will want to do. Heck, many want to do it right now!
It's also worth noting that multiple access is a function of the operating system, not the storage medium. Legally it's a matter of licensing. -
jimthing1 — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 09:37 AM)
Erm, yeah, I'm an experienced network engineer, so good luck with your supercilious explanations to me; I was obviously simplifying, rather than writing an essay on a non-tech board on all the various redundancies one should/could have, depending on budget and need.
The point being made is NOT ABOUT THE TECH one could or should use. It's about the fact that such tech CAN be used in the first place and how it betters the other small item physical storage mediums available. -
jon-gwynne — 10 years ago(February 25, 2016 01:27 PM)
Most consumers are going to prefer "on demand" to local storage. That way, they can watch what they want, when they want, without having to go to the store to buy it or worry about where they're going to keep it.
I've got loads of DVDs and BD at home but I'm buying far fewer than I used to. The practice of buying films or TV shows on disk is going the way of getting a membership at the local video-rental store.
Sure, someone could buy a user-friendly, hot-swappable RAID storage solution. But the real question is: Why?
As solid-state drives get larger/cheaper, they will replace magnetic drives in PCs.
As for media - why not just get your music/video online?
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Speed_Daemon — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 04:00 PM)
Most consumers are going to prefer "on demand" to local storage. That way, they can watch what they want, when they want, without having to go to the store to buy it or worry about where they're going to keep it.
This is a good time to revisit this, as there is news.
First, let's dispel the myth that getting to keep a copy of something always entails "going to the store". It does not. Everything that I have on local storage was delivered to me over wires, either as a QAM cable or ATSC OTA TV stream, or as a file over the Internet. I didn't go to a store once, though I have a few optical discs that Amazon delivered to me.
The news is that, like Amazon already does, Netflix is moving towards local storage as a way for their customers to watch content when they're not connected to a high bit-rate Internet connection. People who spend long periods of time in planes, trains and automobiles need local storage because existing wireless coverage simply isn't even close to being everywhere.
I've been converting files from my TiVo boxes for travel use for over a decade, and more recently, Dish has been offering "store and forward" as a service to their users through an app. You can expect more of this as people take their mobile devices beyond the reach of all "online" networks. -
mikekuhlman-415-393642 — 9 years ago(June 23, 2016 11:48 AM)
As long as DVD keeps making MONEY for the movie studios and networks. When the MONEY stops rolling for DVD because every consumer in the world is buying blu-rays, the movie studios and networks will stop making DVDs. And by that time, blu-rays will be so cheap, will be selling for $1, so who cares?
I give DVD longer than VHS and VHS probably lasted 30 years. That means at least the year 2027. -
Speed_Daemon — 9 years ago(June 28, 2016 03:48 PM)
There's another angle that just came to me. Every once in a while the fact that US nuclear launch computers are not network connected ("air-gapped" is a popular if silly term in popular usage) and use old-fashioned floppy disks to store their machine code on. The uninformed usually make a joke of it, but the fact is that it's a proven technology that's been completely debugged, and not modernizing is done on purpose for security.
I'd wager that the DVD will find a similar niche. As with old floppy disks, the DVD is advanced enough to be reliable, but not so advanced as to introduce any security problems. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the the US DoD and other state security agencies worldwide have already purchased DVD pressing (not just a WORM drive) facilities to use for archiving and moving data that's too sensitive to send over cables. It makes sense, after all the DoD makes its own floppy disk media now. -
Woodyanders — 5 years ago(November 24, 2020 09:33 PM)
I keep finding all kinds of films on DVD for just a buck at Dollar Tree, so the format has definitely been relegated to the sidelines at this point in time.
You've seen Guy Standeven in something because the man was in everything. -
476ee2aae0585c9553e5b457671330a2 — 5 years ago(December 02, 2020 08:50 PM)
People are lazy now. No one wants to pop in a disc or go thru the menus and settings.
Even I hate it when I have to endure 5 locked movie trailers or these long FBI warning logo just to access to the film itself on the disc.