Well you're just all ****ed up now, aren't you?
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None — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 01:14 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
But anyway, giving a reason for something isn’t always the same thing as giving an excuse for something. Giving a reason might explain why my walking can be imperfect at times but the person I accidentally bumped into might see that as an excuse. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 04:47 PM)
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But anyway, giving a reason for something isn’t always the same thing as giving an excuse for something. Giving a reason might explain why my walking can be imperfect at times but the person I accidentally bumped into might see that as an excuse.
I don't disagree with you there. But I still believe we hold people to certain standards of decent and ethical behavior. That doesn't change whether they're bipolar or as stable as a rock.
If you have a limp and might bump into people, you're extra careful when you walk in a crowd. If a man verbally abuses his wife because he is "bipolar", then he needs to take extra measures to control his potentially abusive behavior.
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None — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 05:10 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
I don't disagree with you there. But I still believe we hold people to certain standards of decent and ethical behavior. That doesn't change whether they're bipolar or as stable as a rock.
If you have a limp and might bump into people, you're extra careful when you walk in a crowd. If a man verbally abuses his wife because he is "bipolar", then he needs to take extra measures to control his potentially abusive behavior.
Some people hurt themselves and some people hurt others. Sure it’s better if people can control themselves so they don’t hurt or mess up the lives of other people but mental illness can be a right old **** at times and often doesn’t play fair with the person who has it. Of course this man you mention might just have a mean streak that he manages to contain most of the time. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 05:27 PM)
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Some people hurt themselves and some people hurt others. Sure it’s better if people can control themselves so they don’t hurt or mess up the lives of other people but mental illness can be a right old cunt at times and often doesn’t play fair with the person who has it. Of course this man you mention might just have a mean streak that he manages to contain most of the time.
I admit there are gradations of mental illness. Perhaps there are those whose bipolar forces them to be institutionalized? I'm not sure.
But most people diagnosed with bipolar live and work with the rest of us. For them it's not so extreme that one standard of decent behavior cannot be applied.
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None — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 05:55 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
I admit there are gradations of mental illness. Perhaps there are those whose bipolar forces them to be institutionalized? I'm not sure.
But most people diagnosed with bipolar live and work with the rest of us. For them it's not so extreme that one standard of decent behavior cannot be applied.
They can end up being institutionalised. The man you mention might just be a dick who also happens to have a mental illness or he might be a dick because he has a mental illness. Chicken and egg situation.
But I’m not sure what percentage of bipolar people abuse others as we tend to hear more about those who harm themselves. Stephen Fry speaks about how the manic side of the condition can be wonderfully creative but also annoying to others until it comes crashing down. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 07:17 PM)
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They can end up being institutionalised. The man you mention might just be a dick who also happens to have a mental illness or he might be a dick because he has a mental illness. Chicken and egg situation.
But I’m not sure what percentage of bipolar people abuse others as we tend to hear more about those who harm themselves. Stephen Fry speaks about how the manic side of the condition can be wonderfully creative but also annoying to others until it comes crashing down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Ta0yFoNG8
Okay, I'm not making any flippant claim that bipolar doesn't exist.
I was also talking to one of my friends the other day who is the most even tempered guy on earth, and he said he had been diagnosed with bipolar years ago but he ignored it.
I don't believe doctors are always right though. My brother was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis years ago. His new doctor says the diagnosis was wrong and my brother had had a stroke.
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None — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 07:57 PM)
Platonic_Caveman said...
Okay, I'm not making any flippant claim that bipolar doesn't exist.
I was also talking to one of my friends the other day who is the most even tempered guy on earth, and he said he had been diagnosed with bipolar years ago but he ignored it.
I don't believe doctors are always right though. My brother was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis years ago. His new doctor says the diagnosis was wrong and my brother had had a stroke.
Going by the present Frontline Doctors of America drama and all that’s gone before it I’m beginning to think we shouldn’t trust any doctor unless they’re confirming what we already know.
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None — 5 years ago(July 29, 2020 06:03 PM)
My take on jokes about stammering is that they’re okay as long as you don’t make them while the person’s trying to get the words out.
As for my leg, when I was a lad I started getting severe pains in my leg and would rub the affected area to lessen the pain. That leg was also noticeably thinner than the other and one night my brother said I was wearing my leg away with all that rubbing. I thought that was funny but my dad gave him a bit of an ear blast. -
Platonic_Caveman — 5 years ago(July 28, 2020 07:50 PM)
And I have a friend who had a friend whose friend was an asshole and this friend's brother had a friend who had a friend who was bipolar. The bipolar friend's friends were livid.
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