If Dan Marino won a Super Bowl, is he the GOAT QB?
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MakeAmericaGreatAgain — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:08 PM)
Why?
What's the point of discussing things if you can't do what ifs?
Why reply at all? I don't give a **** if you don't like what ifs especially because I see in your post history you do a few of your own.
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millar70 — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 06:41 PM)
All my posts are negative? What are you talking about?? I've been on here for almost 4 years spreading the joy, Mister.
And please show me a post that I started with "What If", I don't believe you'll find one. I don't live in a world where I say "what if" all the time. I try to stay grounded in reality. -
millar70 — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 07:26 PM)
Okay, just for you Sparky, I'll answer the OP's question seriously.
Dan Marino was a GREAT quarterback, one of the best. But no way was he the greatest. You can make any excuse you want, but in really big games, Marino more often than not would play very poorly, and break your heart with at least one very costly interception.
My lasting image of Marino is him holding his arms to his head after yet another awfully timed interception in any number of playoff games.
One of the greatest arms I've ever seen, but there's no denying how shaky he could get in December and January.
If he had won a Super Bowl, would he be the greatest? Probably not, but it doesn't matter, he never won a Super Bowl and in the one that he was in, he was thoroughly outplayed by a better clutch qb. -
millar70 — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 06:44 PM)
Matter of fact, I just checked my posting history and I have NEVER started a thread with "What if"so you're not only a bozo, but a lying one as well.
Here's hoping that you get an awful disease for Christmas, and that you wither away and die a painful death.
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IMDbGigalo — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 01:11 PM)
Not only is it a team game, the NFL playoffs are one game a round. Anything can happen in a single game of football. Part of what makes the NFL exciting is that underlying principle that a lesser team might win on a given day. Every playoff round is a game 7. But to go along side that, using that as a measure of a player's stature seems dumb.
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bigbadwolf666 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 10:41 AM)
I guess you can be considered the best at your position atheletically. But to me if you want to be the best overall you have to have at least one ring. Marino even played in one and just wasnt good enough. If he had thrown a perfect game and still lost I think I mightve had more sympathy for him. I even consider Warner better than him.
Why am I such a misfit? I am not just a nitwit. -
Rocketman — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:04 PM)
Look at Elway - he's one of the most overrated QBs but is considered one of the best because he won 2 Super Bowls.
And won a Super Bowl MVP in one of them and went to three more before those two wins. You could argue that the Super Bowl MVP was given to him because it was his last game, but dude, how do you explain him going to three Super Bowls before Terrell Davis and Mike Shanahan? -
MakeAmericaGreatAgain — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:11 PM)
The AFC was hilariously bad in the 80s.
John Elway's stats are hilariously bad even if you adjust for the era. I just can't take a guy who threw only 17 TDs and 19 INTs in his prime seriously.
Elway is good, no doubt, but if he didn't win those 2 Super Bowls he'd be considered a joke. Like poor Dan Marino is now LOL. -
HollywoodWolfman1 — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:14 PM)
how do you explain him going to three Super Bowls before Terrell Davis and Mike Shanahan?
Obviously a product of Dan Reeve's futuristic offensive philosophy and Sammy Winder.
The Broncos didn't become a West Coast team until '93, when magically Elway's numbers started getting a whole lot better.
I think everyone who saw him play would agree that Elway was at his best under Reeves, even though there's no way to make that case statistically. He was carrying that offense. I thought Donovan McNabb in 2000 was another guy who had a great year that wasn't particularly good statistically. -
MakeAmericaGreatAgain — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 02:28 PM)
He was a "gunslinger" like Favre. But it's hard to compare because back then a lot of people threw tons of picks.
These days it's almost impossible to throw a pick. It's so weird and distracting.
QB stats these days are almost pointless. -
NJtoTX — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 04:03 PM)
If you can count on someone not being hit after 5 yards, it's a lot easier to throw the ball to where the guy will be.
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