He's right, you found one example of a "Trump supporter" being violent and compared it the riots we've seen since Trump
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jimanchower — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:01 AM)
He's right, you found one example of a "Trump supporter" being violent and compared it the riots we've seen since Trump was elected,as if it's in any way comparable.
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wordsatplaytoday — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 01:01 AM)
The mayor did warn people to stay away from the area. To go home where it's safe.
And if he was somehow announcing he's a Trump fanatic, either with his mouth or a T-shirt or hat or whatever, then he was asking for it.
So it's really on him for putting himself at risk.
Save a few lives including your own.
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Beardy_McJewsenheimer_CPA — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 01:26 AM)
Wow, what a mind set. He was asking for it, huh? So it's his fault for voicing t=his opinion, not the fault of the terrorists who attacked him? That's some great logic right there. Blame the victim. Bet 9/11 was our fault, too.
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wordsatplaytoday — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:41 AM)
So it's his fault for voicing t=his opinion, not the fault of the protesters who attacked him?
Both parts share in the responsibility.
If you had no choice but you had to walk through a large group of Hell's Angels in your way would you keep your hat on that reads, "I hate motorcycles" or take it off and stuff it in your knapsack to be safe?
If you leave it on, you are just asking to get harassed or worse.
There is a time and place for everything and for someone to be for Trump, that wasn't the time or place.
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Bob_Loblaw_Lobs_Law_Bombs — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:22 AM)
The mayor did warn people to stay away from the area. To go home where it's safe.
And if he was somehow announcing he's a Trump fanatic, either with his mouth or a T-shirt or hat or whatever, then he was asking for it.
So it's really on him for putting himself at risk.
that sounds an awful lot like "well if she didn't want to be sexually assaulted she shouldn't have bee wearing that short dress around those men".
how about, nobody should ever expect to be physically assaulted for their clothing or political beliefs?
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wordsatplaytoday — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:43 AM)
how about, nobody should ever expect to be physically assaulted for their clothing or political beliefs?
That would be nice.
However, if I ever go to a cattle auction where there is a bunch of mean and angry rednecks I'm not going to wear my "Fk Animal Cruelty" T-shirt.
Common sense is not always that common.
Figures that a Trump voter doesn't have it since he voted for the biggest moron out of all the candidates.
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Beardy_McJewsenheimer_CPA — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 02:26 AM)
Wow, old stanny boy is really busy deleting posts tonight. How pathetic is that? I've never once reported a thread. But it's typical for them to try to quash opinions of others. Oh sweetie, is this all because someone reported one of your posts that one time? To be fair, that was weak as well, regardless of the stupidity it contained. And whoever did it is as big of a pussy and whiny bitch as you're being right now. Reporting posts is one of weakest, most cowardly things you can do. Just pathetic
And be careful, there's more of us than there is of you. Maybe we bond together and mass report your posts? before you know it, you either have a 30 minute posting quote or your account disappears like so many of the posts you cowardly deleted.
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stan-18673 — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 02:42 AM)
I've got no idea what the hell you are talking about, you paranoid, essay writing imbecile!
But I do love the fact you up at whatever hour it is in America angrily writing dissertations to yourself, what a balloon you are.
Just imagine what you could have achieved if you put this much effort into school or finding a job
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klawrencio — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 04:36 AM)
I mean, people were burning effigies of Obama in the streets, holding up signs that read n!gger president. You can't accuse the other side of being hypocrites while ignoring what happened when the shoe was on the other foot.
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Beardy_McJewsenheimer_CPA — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 05:55 AM)
Yup, burning crudely made stick figures and holding distasteful signs is totally comparable to domestic terrorism, including( but totally not limited too): rioting, destroying stores, destroying traffic lights and road sings, punching dudes, pepper spraying women and then kicking them in the ribs, etc
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klawrencio — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 06:45 AM)
I'm not condoning what's going on here, it's stupid. But to simply call that form of hateful rhetoric from 2008 and 2012 merely "distatseful" is rather disingenuous. Farting at the dinner table is distasteful. Re-enacting KKK rallies, hanging an Obama likeness from a tree, lighting it on fire and condemning him as a Muslim/Kenyan terrorist is something else entirely. You make it sound like the far right sat around after those elections holding hands and singing kumbaya.
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Beardy_McJewsenheimer_CPA — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:10 AM)
Whether you like it or not, and I don't, those examples are expression of free speech. So basically you responded to a thread about his friend getting assaulted and put in the hospital and about domestic terrorists rioting and assaulting women with "Yeah, but Republicans exercised Free Speech!"
You make it sound like the far right sat around after those elections holding hands and singing kumbaya.
No, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that exercises in Free Speech, even disgusting free speech, is nowhere near the same as what these liberals are doing in Berkley and have done many other times. I invite you to find me anything where Republicans did anything that comes even remotely close to the pure evil and violence that went on in Berkley 2 nights ago. Hell, I'll even take a gathering where they were just throwing rocks at cops, which has pretty much become a staple at these Left Wing riots. In fact, when all they do is throw rocks at cops, that's considered them on their best behavior
It's also worth pointing out that these tolerant, accepting liberals rioted to prevent a gay, Jewish, immigrant from speaking his mind.
Farting at the dinner table is distasteful
Well, this certainly explains my lightly attended dinner parties
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klawrencio — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:19 AM)
No, that's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is that exercises in Free Speech, even disgusting free speech, is nowhere near the same as what these liberals are doing in Berkley and have done many other times. I invite you to find me anything where Republicans did anything that comes even remotely close to the pure evil and violence that went on in Berkley 2 nights ago. Hell, I'll even take a gathering where they were just throwing rocks at cops, which has pretty much become a staple at these Left Wing riots. In fact, when all they do is throw rocks at cops, that's considered them on their best behavior
Can't really argue there, although I'd argue that "evil" extends to their chosen manner of exercising their free speech, which for many conjures up some pretty terrible images of some of the worst atrocities committed by this very nation. But the violence is stupid, I'll grant you. One can protest Obama for a host of reasons, but they were protesting him back then because rush limbaugh said he was a Muslim Kenyan, or whatever it was. -
jimanchower — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:11 AM)
You're full of sh it Klaw. We've seen multiple full on riots since Trump has been elected.
Show me something comparable to Berkeley from when Obama was elected. Don't talk about "effigies" or "re-enacting KKK" rallies, that's a load of sh it.
Show us an example of "protestors" setting things on fire, rioting, attacking people etc. we've seen this multiple times.including Berkeleysince Trump won the election.
Protesting a leader is not the same thing as rioting. At all. When Obama was elected people weren't running around smashing things, burning things, attacking people, etc.
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klawrencio — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:24 AM)
We've seen multiple full on riots since Trump has been elected.
I never said otherwise.
Show me something comparable to Berkeley from when Obama was elected.
I never suggested such a thing happened.
Don't talk about "effigies" or "re-enacting KKK" rallies, that's a load of sh it.
Well, those things happened. Why would one ignore them? Because it doesn't suit what you're saying? Fair enough. But what happened in 2008 and 2012 were disgusting displays when you consider the historic significance of those images coupled with the fact that they happened immediately in the wake of this country's first black president.
Protesting a leader is not the same thing as rioting. At all. When Obama was elected people weren't running around smashing things, burning things, attacking people, etc.
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jimanchower — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:36 AM)
Klawyou compared a few idiots to multiple violent and destructive riots. You absolutely did that.
You talk about "effigies" or "KKK reenactments" as if that was happenening everywhere? For oneevery leader ever has had effigies made of them.that has nothing to do with race..for two there absolutely was not a bunch of people "reneacting KKK rallies". That didn't happen. It was a huge outrage when someone held up a stuffed Curious George at a Republican rally. Remember that?
And for you to bring it up to defend stuff like what happened in Berkeley is absurd.
You're full of sh it.
There are 330 million peopl in this country and you can find crazy or violent people of every political background. What you won't find is anything remotely comparable to what we're seeing now done by the "Right" after Obama won the election.
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klawrencio — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:45 AM)
Klawyou
compared
a few idiots to multiple violent and destructive riots. You absolutely did that.
And for you to bring it up to
defend
stuff like what happened in Berkeley is absurd.
As I thought, you have no idea what I'm actually saying and you're arguing against something I'm not doing.
that has nothing to do with race
Signs that say beep president" have nothing to do with race. I guess I can see how one would think that -
Beardy_McJewsenheimer_CPA — 9 years ago(February 03, 2017 07:53 AM)
But he's right. Every president has been burned in effigy. I'm guessing Dubya was probably burned more times than Obama. They were burning him in effigy on his 2nd inauguration route. But all of a sudden it's racist when it happens with Obama when it has happened with every other guy before him? What you're saying is racist because it indirectly( or maybe directly) suggest that we need to act differently and treat a black president differently because he's black.
I mean, those few signs with the N-word, I can't help and think that perhaps race might have played a factor. But the burning presidents in effigy is essentially a time honored tradition, black guy or not
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