Stupid baseball questions I am wondering
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tyler-92 — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 09:59 PM)
And of course, pitching gets so much more complicated than that. A pitcher is more likely to throw something that breaks into the lower part of the zone if he has a runner on first with fewer than two outs because he's trying to induce a ground ball double play.
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FloweryPartFour — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 10:05 PM)
Okay one more for rn:
So I get that basic NL strategy is to take a pitcher out of the batting order around the 6th inning, So if you do that, and put a pinch hitter in, does the Pinch hitter also have to come out when they put the next pitcher on the mound ? Thanks in advance.
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tyler-92 — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 12:58 AM)
Yes, the pinch hitter is out of the game unless the manager does a double switch. A double switch involves simultaneously taking two players out of the lineup at the same time, effectively switching their spots in the order. The pinch hitter would have to replace someone in the field in the following inning to remain in the game, and the pitcher's spot in the batting order would move to where the removed player had been hitting.
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marsexplorer — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 01:15 AM)
WOW you guys really fell for it. Do you think he is that stupid?
Does it depend on the batter what pitches are thrown? Of course it does, different hitters have different weaknesses.
Can a pitch hitter bat twice within 9 at bats? No, even if he led off his next at bat would be the 10th. -
kenneglds — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 03:23 AM)
Does it depend on the batter what pitchers are thrown? Of course it does, different hitters have different weaknesses.
Yes, and it would also depend on what a pitcher's best pitches normally are. What is his OUT PITCH, and what are normally the less effective pitchers of the particular pitcher. And then it would also depend on what particular pitches have been working best for that particular pitcher on that particular day. And then it could also depend on how the pitcher/catcher have been trying to SET-UP a particular batter. And also how the particular batter has been doing recently. Basically, there are all kinds of factors that can be involved.
As for the question as to whether a pinch hitter can bat twice within 9 at bats, no, nobody can bat twice within 9 at bats. A pinch hitter can't even PINCH-HIT twice in the same game. A pinch hitter would be out of the game after the 1st time he pinch hits, unless he gets on base, in which case he would be out of the game immediately after his base running "adventures" for that inning come to an end. The pinch hitter is out of the game unless his manager then moves him to a position at the start of the next half inning, in which case the pinch-utter can come to bat later in the game (but it won't be as a pinch-hitter)
Do you think he is that stupid?
It would be unusual for a big baseball fan to not know the answer to some of the questions asked. -
tyler-92 — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 12:06 PM)
Here's a more interesting question.
National League park, runner on first, two outs. Pitcher is due up. A pinch hitter is in the on-deck circle about to come up to the plate for the pitcher. While he's leaving the on-deck circle, the runner on first steps off the bag. What do you know, the first baseman had the ball. The ol' Hidden Ball Trick! The runner is tagged out and the inning ends.
Question, have you burned that pinch hitter? What if he had gotten all the way to the plate but hadn't seen a pitch yet? At what point is that player part of the game? -
klawrencio — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 12:29 PM)
At what point is that player part of the game?
Having not independently checked the rule book, it happens when the pinch hitter is "announced" to the umpire by the manager. You'll see guys in the on deck circle multiple times before they actually bat. Perhaps I am mistaken. -
justanicknamed — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 05:18 AM)
Yes. If you watch the exchange, the batter will approach the batter's box and the ump will record who it is, then turn and motion to the press box.
It is at that moment he's now the batter of record. It isn't when he's announced by the PA system because what if the power went out in the PA booth?
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shuglife — 9 years ago(January 20, 2017 02:09 AM)
A batter can be in the on deck but not officially entered into the game until announced. So as he is approaching the plate he can still be no in the game yet. So when the runner is tagged out depends on if it was before or after the announcement.
But, honestly if a runner leaves the bag before the pitcher is on the rubber he deserves to be out. The hidden ball trick can only work if the pitcher does not touch the rubber. If he touches the rubber wothout the ball it is a balk. But if the runner leaves the bag before the pitcher is on the rubber he is being very careless.Is this Idaho? Because I will not limbo in Idaho.
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justanicknamed — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 01:04 PM)
- Can a pinch hitter bat twice within 9 at bats ?
Do you mean can he go in and hit in the #8 spot and then bat in the #4 spot if it makes it that far in the inning? The answer is No.
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Do you mean can he go in and hit in the #8 spot and then hit there again if they bat around the order? The answer is Yes - but only the first time up counts as a pinch-hit. The next time up (and any time after that in the game) is just considered a regular at-bat.
- Can a pinch hitter bat twice within 9 at bats ?
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NobodymournstheWicked — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 06:10 PM)
As far as I can remember once you take a player out of a MLB baseball game, they are out for the rest of the game, you can't route players in an out of a game like you can in other sports. And I am not aware of any mangers ever trying to put a player back into the same game after they took them out. Like take for an example, the manger takes the starting pitcher out in the 5th inning, and then tries to get him back in later on?
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HairyButtCheeks — 9 years ago(January 19, 2017 06:12 PM)
i remember terry collins using jose valverde TWICE in a game a couple of years ago. he must have put him in the outfield or something, but i am sure he used him twice. and that was his last game with the mets if i remember correctly