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    SolarisTheOne — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:22 AM)

    Personalities?
    I laughed more than once at the blind zealot like monk.
    We all have it coming Kid

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      FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:27 AM)

      Er, ok?
      These violent delights have violent ends.

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        SolarisTheOne — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:42 AM)

        Thats not much of a personality
        Same with the rest of the one note characters.
        We all have it coming Kid

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          Umakemyheadswim — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:52 AM)

          Thats not much of a personality
          Same with the rest of the one note characters
          Its weird you say this. Since TFA has Finn and Rey. Some of the flattest and inconsistent characters in the Star Wars universe.

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            Bacon_Statham — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:39 AM)

            He's a blind monk who can feel the Force, but isn't able to actually use it. It's why he's such a good fighter.
            I imagine that's like being a really good boxer and not being able to fight because you've got one arm. Any other person in the galaxy would most probably hate the fact that they can feel the Force, but can't use it, whereas he embraces it.
            He's definitely more interesting than Jyn who was your standard ''hates-authority-because-of-my-daddy-issues'' heroine.
            I don't know what's more worrying. This job or your past.

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              SolarisTheOne — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:46 AM)

              Finn and that buddy that helps him escape had more chemistry in the first couple of minutes in Force Awakens than all the characters combined in Rogue.
              We all have it coming Kid

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                theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:49 AM)

                That's actually kind of true.
                "I'm gonna get medieval on your ass!"

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                  FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:53 AM)

                  Like I said, Poe and Finn had great chemistry (which is ironic to hear this as a positive since one of the critiques of TFA was that Finn and Poe's chemistry was forcedno pun intended). But the characters of R1 did too. Was it as good? Maybe not. But they weren't friends, they shared a common goal. Jyn, K2, and Cassian I thought were great on screen together.
                  These violent delights have violent ends.

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                    theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:02 AM)

                    Yeah I remember reading that, they gave off that vibe of two random people just barely escaping enemy territories together, that's why I had no issues with it at all.
                    I thought they were fine in Rogue One, but if there's one complaint I'll have it's that they still could've been more fleshed out. Just a bit.
                    "I'm gonna get medieval on your ass!"

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                      Ethan_Chandler — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 03:35 AM)

                      Finn and Poe's chemistry was forced
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                        FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:49 AM)

                        The fact that Finn and Poe had chemistry doesn't take away that the cast of R1 did as well.
                        These violent delights have violent ends.

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                          Umakemyheadswim — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:54 AM)

                          Personalities?
                          I laughed more than once at the blind zealot like monk.
                          The monk was fine alright. You should be laughing at Finns personality that makes no sense

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                            Bacon_Statham — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:13 AM)

                            What you mean the same personality that Han Solo had in ANH and ESB?
                            He was a soldier who watched his friend die and wanted to escape the First Order. He gets sucked back into the fight after bumping into Rey and BB-8, but no matter what he's still determined to escape. He slowly befriends Rey and after he decides to leave, he watches her get taken away and realises that he cares about something more than his own survival.
                            Do you mean that personality? Because that's who Han Solo was. Except he was a greedy, self-centered smuggler and not a rookie Stormtrooper. It took three movies before Solo officially joined the Rebels, it took Finn about an hour.
                            Solo may have been working for the Rebels for three years between ANH and ROTJ, but that was because he had a debt to settle with Jabba the Hutt and the Rebels probably paid him for his service.
                            Personally I think Finn could've started out as a loyal soldier who slowly grows more disillusioned with the First Order. The only problem I have with his character is that he left too early and met Rey sooner than he should have.
                            I liked him better than Cassian Andor anyway.
                            I don't know what's more worrying. This job or your past.

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                              FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:44 AM)

                              What you mean the same personality that Han Solo had in ANH and ESB?
                              He was a soldier who watched his friend die and wanted to escape the First Order. He gets sucked back into the fight after bumping into Rey and BB-8, but no matter what he's still determined to escape. He slowly befriends Rey and after he decides to leave, he watches her get taken away and realises that he cares about something more than his own survival.
                              Do you mean that personality? Because that's who Han Solo was
                              You're describing a narrative, not a personality. Solo and Finn do not have similar personalities.
                              These violent delights have violent ends.

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                                Umakemyheadswim — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 10:57 AM)

                                Personally I think Finn could've started out as a loyal soldier who slowly grows more disillusioned with the First Order. The only problem I have with his character is that he left too early and met Rey sooner than he should have.
                                The problems with Finns character goes beyond just that. His whole shtick is an example of terrible writing in TFA
                                He was put into the first order at a young age. So young he doesn't even remember his parents..So around 1-2 years old. He then spends his whole life being indoctrinated.Quite literally his whole life revolves around the first order. Yet when we are introduced to Finn he doesn't act like an indoctrinated soldier..Nothing about him says he was trained from a young age to be a solider. Nothing about his personality says he was indoctrinated and holds any of the New Orders ideologiesThis is lazy writing.
                                Oh and then you have Finn betray the first order cause he saw some of his friend storm troopers get mowed down.So what is Finns solution to seeing his friends get killed? Betray the first order and Kill them himself
                                ..See how excited he was on the tie fighter mowing down his friends before he escaped the ship with his gay lover?

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                                  Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:52 AM)

                                  Jedi was terrible. Honestly a bit surprised people think it's a good movie, Star Wars or otherwise.
                                  Anyway. Thought Rogue One was great. The first Star Wars movie released in my lifetime that I can say is genuinely good.
                                  I am on fire, but an extinguisher is not required

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                                    theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:59 AM)

                                    Everything with Luke and Vader is great, same with the space battle and the speeder bike chase. The music and the special effects are amazing, but I dunno, a lot of the other stuff is honestly so and so.
                                    There's something about them turning into the Scooby Doo gang all of a sudden that always rubbed me the wrong way. Even C-36O and R2-D2 followed with!
                                    Also, Harrison Ford turned Solo into some lame, bumbling fool in this one and was just phoning it in basically.
                                    I still enjoy it a lot, it's a good ending to the trilogy, but to call TFA lazy or whatever while still putting Jedi on a pedestal is kind of laughable.
                                    "I'm gonna get medieval on your ass!"

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                                      FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:06 AM)

                                      What if you put them all (save the prequels) on a pedestal?
                                      These violent delights have violent ends.

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                                        theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:10 AM)

                                        That'd be nice!
                                        "I'm gonna get medieval on your ass!"

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                                          Monk-ish — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 11:16 AM)

                                          I wouldn't say terrible, but it's a big step down from ANH and ESB.

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