OT: Star Wars Rogue One spoilers
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FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:53 AM)
Like I said, Poe and Finn had great chemistry (which is ironic to hear this as a positive since one of the critiques of TFA was that Finn and Poe's chemistry was forcedno pun intended). But the characters of R1 did too. Was it as good? Maybe not. But they weren't friends, they shared a common goal. Jyn, K2, and Cassian I thought were great on screen together.
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 07:02 AM)
Yeah I remember reading that, they gave off that vibe of two random people just barely escaping enemy territories together, that's why I had no issues with it at all.
I thought they were fine in Rogue One, but if there's one complaint I'll have it's that they still could've been more fleshed out. Just a bit.
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Bacon_Statham — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:13 AM)
What you mean the same personality that Han Solo had in ANH and ESB?
He was a soldier who watched his friend die and wanted to escape the First Order. He gets sucked back into the fight after bumping into Rey and BB-8, but no matter what he's still determined to escape. He slowly befriends Rey and after he decides to leave, he watches her get taken away and realises that he cares about something more than his own survival.
Do you mean that personality? Because that's who Han Solo was. Except he was a greedy, self-centered smuggler and not a rookie Stormtrooper. It took three movies before Solo officially joined the Rebels, it took Finn about an hour.
Solo may have been working for the Rebels for three years between ANH and ROTJ, but that was because he had a debt to settle with Jabba the Hutt and the Rebels probably paid him for his service.
Personally I think Finn could've started out as a loyal soldier who slowly grows more disillusioned with the First Order. The only problem I have with his character is that he left too early and met Rey sooner than he should have.
I liked him better than Cassian Andor anyway.
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FireInBabylon — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 08:44 AM)
What you mean the same personality that Han Solo had in ANH and ESB?
He was a soldier who watched his friend die and wanted to escape the First Order. He gets sucked back into the fight after bumping into Rey and BB-8, but no matter what he's still determined to escape. He slowly befriends Rey and after he decides to leave, he watches her get taken away and realises that he cares about something more than his own survival.
Do you mean that personality? Because that's who Han Solo was
You're describing a narrative, not a personality. Solo and Finn do not have similar personalities.
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Umakemyheadswim — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 10:57 AM)
Personally I think Finn could've started out as a loyal soldier who slowly grows more disillusioned with the First Order. The only problem I have with his character is that he left too early and met Rey sooner than he should have.
The problems with Finns character goes beyond just that. His whole shtick is an example of terrible writing in TFA
He was put into the first order at a young age. So young he doesn't even remember his parents..So around 1-2 years old. He then spends his whole life being indoctrinated.Quite literally his whole life revolves around the first order. Yet when we are introduced to Finn he doesn't act like an indoctrinated soldier..Nothing about him says he was trained from a young age to be a solider. Nothing about his personality says he was indoctrinated and holds any of the New Orders ideologiesThis is lazy writing.
Oh and then you have Finn betray the first order cause he saw some of his friend storm troopers get mowed down.So what is Finns solution to seeing his friends get killed? Betray the first order and Kill them himself
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Yoss_and_the_Pilfered_Peaches — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:52 AM)
Jedi was terrible. Honestly a bit surprised people think it's a good movie, Star Wars or otherwise.
Anyway. Thought Rogue One was great. The first Star Wars movie released in my lifetime that I can say is genuinely good.
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theinfernobucket — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:59 AM)
Everything with Luke and Vader is great, same with the space battle and the speeder bike chase. The music and the special effects are amazing, but I dunno, a lot of the other stuff is honestly so and so.
There's something about them turning into the Scooby Doo gang all of a sudden that always rubbed me the wrong way. Even C-36O and R2-D2 followed with!
Also, Harrison Ford turned Solo into some lame, bumbling fool in this one and was just phoning it in basically.
I still enjoy it a lot, it's a good ending to the trilogy, but to call TFA lazy or whatever while still putting Jedi on a pedestal is kind of laughable.
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Harry_Skywalker — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 02:18 PM)
Jedi was terrible. Honestly a bit surprised people think it's a good movie, Star Wars or otherwise.
Anyway. Thought Rogue One was great. The first Star Wars movie released in my lifetime that I can say is genuinely good.
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Ethan_Chandler — 9 years ago(December 24, 2016 03:33 AM)
Depth? I thought the Scariff spectacle was sick but I couldn't care about the sacrifices of any of the undeveloped characters. It's all technically impressive, but there really is nothing substantial going on here from a storytelling standpoint. A lot like his Godzilla film.
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the-boxman — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 06:19 AM)
I agree with most of your points. The Force Awakens wasn't perfect but it was a better movie. Rogue One hits all these story beats on cue but I felt like it was missing the character in between. The action in those last 30 minutes is great though.