You said loads LOL
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Zombie55 — 10 years ago(January 30, 2016 02:31 PM)
I have to make a confession and declare that in this day and age, especially due to internet with forums laden heavily with discussions containing immense and contradictory emotions, and laws that, despite the fact that I GENERALLY agree with and even respect, feel often get enforced and even slightly change, well, I personally have to say that for any reason, I don't feel like having sex at all.
Because internet with its discussions often makes me feel that as a result, either me or my partner will get mistakenly or unmistakably but BECAUSE of law's harshness, taken away for what they may consider sexual misconduct, and all those registries and whatnot really scare me off.
In other words, I feel that sex in life is different to how it is in the movies, and in today's day and age, there seem to be too many discussions on what constitutes consent etc and what is the difference between this and that, but it mostly makes us follow the letter of the law and not the spirit.
A bit like how we also have laws that say we can be arrested if we chop our fingers off at work by causing a health hazard but only to ourselves.
It makes me wonder also above all things why, in our overall humanity, there just CANNOT be a general consensus on anything and why everyone is different.
And I can even sort of bet that if it happened today, maybe Sam from this movie would NOT have enjoyed the BJ from Heddy and felt that he was raped, with all the emotional and physical revulsion this entails, and maybe even commit suicide for having something pleasurable albeit private replaced with pain and an invasion of privacy.
If only Heddy asked for his consent.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(April 29, 2016 05:36 AM)
And on a side note - its bad enough she did it to him in the first place but as if its not enough, she kills him later on. Now that's taking victim blaming and gender reversal taken to a whole new level. Poor guy indeed.
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Captain_Wesker — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 01:19 PM)
More than a few guys would be upset that they were tricked into sex under a false pretense/premise. Contrary to Hollywood's depictions, not every man will fornicate with whatever wanders across his path.
It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(May 27, 2016 03:37 PM)
So much for rape being THE worst crime of all and equally terrible under ALL circumstances with absolutely ZERO exceptions, right CranberryNoVodka?
Then again, watch James Gunn's "Super" (2010) and see how in that movie, the lead superhero not only forgives the girl who raped him (Ellen Paige's Libby character) but gets emotionally devastated when she gets killed in an armed confrontation, and pumps rounds after rounds of bullets into heavily armed bad guys as part of a revenge for her killing. And THAT ending? When he stares at one of her pictures and cries? An incredibly touching moment made even more so genuine by its unexpected twisted irony.
Who says double standards in humanity don't exist?
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:25 AM)
I find it INCREDIBLY interesting and fascinating how in this day and age of particular internet outrage, people do NOT even give THIS aspect and its double standard oriented "sides" anything resembling too much thought and just carry on functioning in their lives as normal.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:29 AM)
I myself have somewhat, on the other hand, thought of KILLING myself over the frustration with regards to the complexity of such issues.
Or at the very least, I CRIED intensely about 2 weeks ago when I had a similar discussion about it all with parents.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:58 AM)
Yeah but we are talking a bit about gender reversal rape, cause that's what the scene in this movie being discussed here was, where a victim was a man and the perpetrator a woman.
I can go into details what my crying from 2 weeks was all about but will do so later on.
And there seems to be a lot of double standards here based on people's reactions.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:03 AM)
Then again, if you watch James Gunn's comic book action comedy superhero flick "Super" (2010), the guy in it not only forgives the girl who raped him, but feels emotionally devastated when she gets killed and takes vengeance for her killing by killing 10+ heavily armed men in the confrontation. And even at the end he cries when seeing one of her pictures.
Whereas - another double standard in that movie, he violently kills a man who attempted to rape his ex-wife with zero remorse. But forgives the young woman who does the same thing to him.
Double standard? I mean, we've seen PLENTY of films where in the traditional case as such, and where the perpetrator is a male, they often get violent reveng enforced on them.
But in opposite cases, there's little to that.
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Goranjake — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:07 AM)
Well, can you name any other movie that had a women rape a man? In Flesh+Blood, another Jennifer Jason Leigh movie, a girl reverse rapes a guy who is raping her. And JJL's character in Single White Female does get what's coming to her when she dies.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:19 AM)
Apart from this movie? Sure.
- Thursday (1998) by Skip Woods.
- Knock Knock (2015) by Eli Roth.
- Super (2010) by James Gunn.
- 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002).
- Sex and Death 101 (2007).
- The Cheerleaders (1973).
- The Rookie (1990).
- The Book of Revelations (2006).
- Ilsa: Harem Keeper of Oils (1976).
- Disclosure (1994) by Barry Levinson.
- Someone to Die For (1995) by Clay Borris.
And there are other examples out there for sure too. (Although for some of them, there are debates, but many agree they are - i.e. "Nymphomaniac volume 1" (2013) by Lars von Trier in the train segment.
And also - in this movie, Single White Female, she gets killed in self defense for ANOTHER reason, not as a revenge for her committing rape against a man, whereas in plenty of STANDARD movie examples, the men often do so get killed or hurt DIRECTLY because of it. (Not to mention, the very same man that Jenniger Jason Leigh rapes in this film she also kills - which sort of takes both double standard and victim blaming to a whole new level.)
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