You said loads LOL
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(April 29, 2016 05:36 AM)
And on a side note - its bad enough she did it to him in the first place but as if its not enough, she kills him later on. Now that's taking victim blaming and gender reversal taken to a whole new level. Poor guy indeed.
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Captain_Wesker — 9 years ago(June 27, 2016 01:19 PM)
More than a few guys would be upset that they were tricked into sex under a false pretense/premise. Contrary to Hollywood's depictions, not every man will fornicate with whatever wanders across his path.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(May 27, 2016 03:37 PM)
So much for rape being THE worst crime of all and equally terrible under ALL circumstances with absolutely ZERO exceptions, right CranberryNoVodka?
Then again, watch James Gunn's "Super" (2010) and see how in that movie, the lead superhero not only forgives the girl who raped him (Ellen Paige's Libby character) but gets emotionally devastated when she gets killed in an armed confrontation, and pumps rounds after rounds of bullets into heavily armed bad guys as part of a revenge for her killing. And THAT ending? When he stares at one of her pictures and cries? An incredibly touching moment made even more so genuine by its unexpected twisted irony.
Who says double standards in humanity don't exist?
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:25 AM)
I find it INCREDIBLY interesting and fascinating how in this day and age of particular internet outrage, people do NOT even give THIS aspect and its double standard oriented "sides" anything resembling too much thought and just carry on functioning in their lives as normal.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:29 AM)
I myself have somewhat, on the other hand, thought of KILLING myself over the frustration with regards to the complexity of such issues.
Or at the very least, I CRIED intensely about 2 weeks ago when I had a similar discussion about it all with parents.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:58 AM)
Yeah but we are talking a bit about gender reversal rape, cause that's what the scene in this movie being discussed here was, where a victim was a man and the perpetrator a woman.
I can go into details what my crying from 2 weeks was all about but will do so later on.
And there seems to be a lot of double standards here based on people's reactions.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:03 AM)
Then again, if you watch James Gunn's comic book action comedy superhero flick "Super" (2010), the guy in it not only forgives the girl who raped him, but feels emotionally devastated when she gets killed and takes vengeance for her killing by killing 10+ heavily armed men in the confrontation. And even at the end he cries when seeing one of her pictures.
Whereas - another double standard in that movie, he violently kills a man who attempted to rape his ex-wife with zero remorse. But forgives the young woman who does the same thing to him.
Double standard? I mean, we've seen PLENTY of films where in the traditional case as such, and where the perpetrator is a male, they often get violent reveng enforced on them.
But in opposite cases, there's little to that.
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Goranjake — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:07 AM)
Well, can you name any other movie that had a women rape a man? In Flesh+Blood, another Jennifer Jason Leigh movie, a girl reverse rapes a guy who is raping her. And JJL's character in Single White Female does get what's coming to her when she dies.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:19 AM)
Apart from this movie? Sure.
- Thursday (1998) by Skip Woods.
- Knock Knock (2015) by Eli Roth.
- Super (2010) by James Gunn.
- 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002).
- Sex and Death 101 (2007).
- The Cheerleaders (1973).
- The Rookie (1990).
- The Book of Revelations (2006).
- Ilsa: Harem Keeper of Oils (1976).
- Disclosure (1994) by Barry Levinson.
- Someone to Die For (1995) by Clay Borris.
And there are other examples out there for sure too. (Although for some of them, there are debates, but many agree they are - i.e. "Nymphomaniac volume 1" (2013) by Lars von Trier in the train segment.
And also - in this movie, Single White Female, she gets killed in self defense for ANOTHER reason, not as a revenge for her committing rape against a man, whereas in plenty of STANDARD movie examples, the men often do so get killed or hurt DIRECTLY because of it. (Not to mention, the very same man that Jenniger Jason Leigh rapes in this film she also kills - which sort of takes both double standard and victim blaming to a whole new level.)
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Goranjake — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:23 AM)
Who's victim blaming? Nobody in the movie. And it's not like she could've been killed specifically for raping the guy, since nobody knows that she raped him. He's not gonna come back from the dead to get revenge.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 03:45 PM)
True, but I was just saying, in standard examples, the guys responsible often get killed or hurt due to revenge directly for the act, but it almost never happens in movies where there's a gender reversal.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 03:46 PM)
Then again, it happened sometimes in movies dealing with revenge for other things as well.
In Dead Man's Shoes (2004), Paddy Considine killed the men that tormented his brother.
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