You said loads LOL
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 09:58 AM)
Yeah but we are talking a bit about gender reversal rape, cause that's what the scene in this movie being discussed here was, where a victim was a man and the perpetrator a woman.
I can go into details what my crying from 2 weeks was all about but will do so later on.
And there seems to be a lot of double standards here based on people's reactions.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:03 AM)
Then again, if you watch James Gunn's comic book action comedy superhero flick "Super" (2010), the guy in it not only forgives the girl who raped him, but feels emotionally devastated when she gets killed and takes vengeance for her killing by killing 10+ heavily armed men in the confrontation. And even at the end he cries when seeing one of her pictures.
Whereas - another double standard in that movie, he violently kills a man who attempted to rape his ex-wife with zero remorse. But forgives the young woman who does the same thing to him.
Double standard? I mean, we've seen PLENTY of films where in the traditional case as such, and where the perpetrator is a male, they often get violent reveng enforced on them.
But in opposite cases, there's little to that.
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Goranjake — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:07 AM)
Well, can you name any other movie that had a women rape a man? In Flesh+Blood, another Jennifer Jason Leigh movie, a girl reverse rapes a guy who is raping her. And JJL's character in Single White Female does get what's coming to her when she dies.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:19 AM)
Apart from this movie? Sure.
- Thursday (1998) by Skip Woods.
- Knock Knock (2015) by Eli Roth.
- Super (2010) by James Gunn.
- 40 Days and 40 Nights (2002).
- Sex and Death 101 (2007).
- The Cheerleaders (1973).
- The Rookie (1990).
- The Book of Revelations (2006).
- Ilsa: Harem Keeper of Oils (1976).
- Disclosure (1994) by Barry Levinson.
- Someone to Die For (1995) by Clay Borris.
And there are other examples out there for sure too. (Although for some of them, there are debates, but many agree they are - i.e. "Nymphomaniac volume 1" (2013) by Lars von Trier in the train segment.
And also - in this movie, Single White Female, she gets killed in self defense for ANOTHER reason, not as a revenge for her committing rape against a man, whereas in plenty of STANDARD movie examples, the men often do so get killed or hurt DIRECTLY because of it. (Not to mention, the very same man that Jenniger Jason Leigh rapes in this film she also kills - which sort of takes both double standard and victim blaming to a whole new level.)
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Goranjake — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 10:23 AM)
Who's victim blaming? Nobody in the movie. And it's not like she could've been killed specifically for raping the guy, since nobody knows that she raped him. He's not gonna come back from the dead to get revenge.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 03:45 PM)
True, but I was just saying, in standard examples, the guys responsible often get killed or hurt due to revenge directly for the act, but it almost never happens in movies where there's a gender reversal.
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Zombie55 — 9 years ago(June 19, 2016 03:46 PM)
Then again, it happened sometimes in movies dealing with revenge for other things as well.
In Dead Man's Shoes (2004), Paddy Considine killed the men that tormented his brother.
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