"But.. but… It's out of line to say 'Death to the IDF'!" 😭😭😭
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HollyJollyHanukka — 9 months ago(July 03, 2025 02:12 AM)
I don’t think they’re calling for literal death of people, but rather for the party beliefs, ideas, etc.
Talk about ****ing pearl-clutching.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(July 03, 2025 02:15 AM)
Why should Roberts get the benefit of having his words interpreted figuratively when the same grace isn't extended to Vylan?
Again, I have no problem with what either of them said. I support people's right to free speech even when that speech is reprehensible. I'm merely pointing out hypocrisy.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(July 03, 2025 02:38 AM)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/music-news/bob-vylan-addresses-glastonbury-death-to-idf-controversy-1236303698/
“We are not for the death of Jews, Arabs, or any other race or group of people,” the duo wrote in a post on Instagram on Tuesday. “We are for the dismantling of a violent military machine — a machine whose own soldiers were told to use ‘unnecessary lethal force’ against innocent civilians waiting for aid. A machine that has destroyed much of Gaza.”
It seems clear that their words, like Roberts', were directed at the IDF as an institution and not the individual personnel. In fact, that was clear prior to their clarification.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(July 03, 2025 02:46 AM)
Perhaps, but the fire in this case is raging on a different continent. I don't expect that anybody who was in the crowd at Glastonbury is a threat to IDF personnel more than 3,000 miles away.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(July 03, 2025 03:07 AM)
Could Roberts' words not be classified as incitement, given the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox and multiple investigations of death threats against other Labour MPs? Conservative MP David Amess was also murdered, which speaks to volatility of the political situation in the UK in general.
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