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    gingercata — 13 years ago(August 30, 2012 04:57 PM)

    I'm with SeanJoyce in this and have had similar feelings over the years regarding snow. This has become one of my favourite Christmas films and the delicious sense of claustrophobia would have been enhanced with a few exterior snow scenes.

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      student_points — 13 years ago(November 11, 2012 06:40 AM)

      What a load of crock. It doesn't snow in Western europe every year.
      In Belgium we have periods of 12 years without any snow whatsoever and it is more to the north than the Loire Valley. And as one poster said, the Loire Valley region is well known for its micro climate.
      What are you complaining about? Because the sun is shining? The sun shines even in winter, it is not very unusual. The trees had no leeves, and that is the only thing that matters, that is the only way you can tell on a film if it is winter. Maybe you are worried the grass looked green?? Comes as a surprise but even in winter the grass looks green in Western Europe.
      It looked to me like a perfectly normal winter.
      Maybe you saw too many Bands of brothers. With the heavy snowfall in Bastogne in one episode. THAT actually was a very unusual winter.
      Winters without any snow are more common than winters with snow, believe me

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        bastasch8647 — 13 years ago(December 23, 2012 03:09 AM)

        Check the ending scene when Hepburn leaves on the boat. The hills across the river are covered with snow. They are not "verdant".

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          spookyrat1 — 12 years ago(December 22, 2013 04:42 AM)

          I'm with SeanJoyce
          So am I. I think he makes a fair point and in doing so points to one of the film's weaknesses. That is, that it's a film and not filmed theatre as some posters seem to be treating it.
          The film is supposed to be set around Christmas Eve in Northern Europe, yet with the few external shots we get, it always looks, as the OP points out anything but close to mid-winter.
          The OP is simply saying the film makers could have made more of an effort than they did, which judged on appearances was minimal.

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            Captain_Augustus_McCrae — 13 years ago(January 15, 2013 03:16 PM)

            As mentioned, in one scene Henry washes his face in a bucket of water, breaking the ice in order to do so. This ice on a bucket of water stored indoors, mind you. OP's powers of observation need working on.
            "It ain't dying I'm talking about, it's LIVING!"
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              syntinen — 13 years ago(February 14, 2013 06:09 AM)

              And that's actually ludicrous, historically speaking. Henry's reign was smack in the middle of the Medieval Warm Period (anyone can google it) when the climate of Western Europe was so mild and balmy that grapes could be grown for wine production as far north as York (and they weren't unknown even in Scotland). No, you would
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                ronfirv — 13 years ago(February 16, 2013 02:41 AM)

                This is one of my favourite films, without doubt.
                However, I doubt very much if Harvey sat down and thought, before commencing filming,now was this set in the Mediaeval Warm Period ? I am all in favour of historical accuracy, but isn't this almost paranoid attention to detail perhaps just a tad OTT?

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                  syntinen — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 01:36 AM)

                  Yes, I love it dearly, too.
                  And nitpicking over its historical accuracy is quite pointless, given that the film (and indeed the play it's based on) employed deliberate anachronism in its vision of the Plantagenets' family life. It's not that Goldman didn't realise that 12th-century royalty didn't have Christmas trees, wrap and label Christmas presents, etc - he introduced these anachronisms quite deliberately, and avoided anything like real medieval manners, precisely so we would relate to them as a real dysfunctional family.
                  My point was that was the OP's nitpick was unjustified anyway, even if the film had been intended to be realistic.

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                    ronfirv — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 01:46 AM)

                    Yes, great acting, fantastic script.
                    Pointless nit-picking, as you described, is exactly that - pointless.
                    Glaring errors another matter entirely.
                    I did notice the Christmas tree! 🙂

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                      aasoloway — 12 years ago(August 23, 2013 04:18 PM)

                      It looks like winter to me. The sun is low and I wouldn't describe it as verdant
                      In the commentary by Anthony Harvey he keeps talking about how cold it was.

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                        bananabry — 12 years ago(December 08, 2013 01:12 AM)

                        This was filmed in Winter, in France. A least the exteriors.
                        Director Anthony Harvey repeats this several times during his audio commentary on the DVD.

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                          dboconnor1 — 10 years ago(October 11, 2015 10:24 PM)

                          I really do not think that it really makes that much difference to the effectiveness of the film.
                          That said, the events occur during the Mediaeval Warm Period which climate scientists say occurred. Some give a range of 900-1300 for this period, some say 950-1250. All would place the events in the warm period however. From around 1600 until around 1800 (or 1850 according to some studies) the "mini ice age" was a cooler period in which alpine glaciation increased.

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                            ronfirv — 10 years ago(October 13, 2015 10:09 AM)

                            You are probably right there.
                            However, seems the 20thC wasn't that warm either if tales of the winter of 1947 are a good gauge, and indeed 1963, which I recall well as a boy, trudging through feet upon feet of snow for week after week, and even our bathroom cistern with a thin veneer of ice round the inner edges, and windows frosted over until very late mornings, only to frost up again nightly! Grim hardly summed up that winter for us,especially in Scotland.

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                              MissMargoChanning — 4 years ago(August 01, 2021 10:32 PM)

                              As someone here mentioned, in a far away time, in IMDb Land…
                              Hey beep I'm almost positive that the term "Winter," references his age, not the season.
                              .
                              That was my understanding, even though it was Christmastime.
                              Regardless of whether there was snow that particular winter or not, Ifound the whole situation compelling to watch again… and I have…
                              Again and again!
                              You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
                              Fasten Your Seatbelts….
                              It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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                                ∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 01:46 PM)

                                It certainly comes in handy for the Kevin Bacon Game - But Removed.
                                That's where you take two actors who have appeared in film and try and knit them together within 7 movies using only other actors they have worked with
                                For example taking someone young these days and someone old from early cinema. Let's go for
                                Sydney Sweeney
                                and get her to
                                Laurence Olivier
                                Margo
                                Sydney was in Once Upon a Time… in Hollywood (2019) with Leonardo DiCaprio
                                Leonardo DiCaprio was in Inception (2010) with Michael Caine
                                Michael Caine was in Sleuth (1972) with Laurence Olivier
                                There we go, just 3 steps and didn't even have to use this film's cast
                                It's a fun game which I'll propose to
                                The Knitting Club
                                and see if people can bring two actors together within 7 movies or less
                                Call me ∑

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                                  MissMargoChanning — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 03:15 PM)

                                  Ahhhhh, you are talking about the degree game…
                                  Three degrees of Laurence Olivier is what you did there.
                                  You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
                                  Fasten Your Seatbelts….
                                  It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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                                    ∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 04:05 PM)

                                    I only happened upon it as The Kevin Bacon game and updated it to be more footloose on the starting and ending points Margo
                                    I've
                                    started one in The Knitting Club forum
                                    if you fancy giving it a go
                                    Or you can try to come up with your own two actors and see who can whittle them down by association the best
                                    Call me ∑

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                                      MissMargoChanning — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 04:27 PM)

                                      I'll think about it.
                                      When I get the chance, I will take some time and gaze at my wall of DVDs 📀, and attempt to string two actors together.
                                      At the moment I am watching Bridget Jones Diary… can you come up with Hugh Grant and Renee Zellweger without them ending up in the second Bridget Jones Diary? 😁
                                      You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
                                      Fasten Your Seatbelts….
                                      It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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                                        ∂³∑x² — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 04:41 PM)

                                        Too easy Margo!
                                        Renee Zellweger was in Jerry Maguire (1996) with Tom Cruise
                                        Tom Cruise was in Mission: Impossible - Fallout (2018) with Henry Cavill
                                        Henry Cavil was in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. (2015) with Hugh Grant
                                        I'm sure someone can get it tighter too if they try
                                        Call me ∑

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                                          MissMargoChanning — 1 year ago(June 30, 2024 05:48 PM)

                                          W
                                          W!
                                          I'm impressed!
                                          You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
                                          Fasten Your Seatbelts….
                                          It's Going To Be A Bumpy Night!

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