To The Far Left…
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MissMargoChanning — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 10:07 PM)
I'm not sure what illegals have to do with this particular issue?
WHAT???
They are welcomed into our country, given SANCTUARY, given places to live, medical assistance…. How wonderful, while the men and women who have served our country get the shaft!
The solution to illegal immigration is, again, to punish those companies who hire them, perhaps even putting their CEOs in prison for human trafficking.
Who's hiring our veterans?
Who's not in prison for human trafficking?
Anyone who hires or hides an illegal immigrant is criminal… Key word? ILLEGAL!!!
I'm all for immigration. Go through legal channels.
You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
Fasten Your Seatbelts….
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Lilith — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 10:14 PM)
It's very straight forward, however the mere suggestion that there are Americans who are welcoming to migrants, but expect them to come here legally, through legal ports of entry, results in being called everything from racist to xenophobic. The convenient excising of the word "legal" is what happens.
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MissMargoChanning — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 10:24 PM)
I can't even respond to some of these replies because I can't believe what these people are saying. It's insanity!
You asked a pretty question; I've given you the ugly answer.
Fasten Your Seatbelts….
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 10:14 PM)
Again, the problem here is corporate America and the oligarchy. The immigrants are just a distraction to make sure you will continue to "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain." The Wall Street bailout during the Bush and Obama administrations was larger than the annual budget of the Department of Veterans Affairs by nearly $300
billion
. Elon Musk alone has received more than $38 billion in corporate welfare, although, in fairness to your point, he might, in fact, be an illegal immigrant. But until we are willing to attack the root cause, rather than the symptoms, these problems will only continue to fester.
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Lo-Speed Perzoot — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 10:50 PM)
Sometimes, you do have to attack the symptoms. The Biden administration opened the border and that was harmful to us all as 12 to 20 million illegals poured in.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 11:02 PM)
You aren't wrong, but what it boils down to is that
most
of these people came here because they heard that there were jobs to be had. And the reason there were jobs to be had is that the rich CEOs know that the only consequences to hiring illegals will possibly be their plant getting raided and some of these workers sent packing. There are plenty of more where they came from. Until we begin making an example of some of these people by giving them years-long federal sentences (in real prisons, not country clubs), they will continue to hire illegal immigrants.
Always worth remembering that while the illegal did cross the border, they did not hire themselves or rent themselves an apartment. Had they found no opportunities here, they would have turned around and went home or kept on moving until they hit Canada. It is very sad indeed that this happening while we have jobless, homeless veterans. I say we should be most angry with the CEOs and landlords for creating the situation.
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Lo-Speed Perzoot — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 11:12 PM)
The border shouldn't have been open.
We now have lots of scary illegals here because of a lefty administration you supported.
All the rest of what you said may or may not be true or valid contributions to this discussion if the bad guys go into action.
The reservoir supplying your water could be poisoned tonight. The restaurant you go to next week could be blown to smithereens while you sip your drink. The bridge you're driving across could be destroyed in a millisecond.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 11:20 PM)
I haven't supported any administration. I literally despise every one of them since FDR and he died before my dad was born.
I completely agree with your concerns. That's why it is imperative to begin putting the concerns of the American working class over the concerns of Wall Street, who love having illegal immigrants around who are willing to work for less money and can never complain about conditions that aren't up to code.
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Lo-Speed Perzoot — 9 months ago(June 07, 2025 11:36 PM)
I don't believe your scenario of Wall Streeters loving illegals is a thing.
And there aren't enough Wall Streeters to drive an insane, ill-advised open border policy anyway; not even with all their valuable campaign contributions.
Besides, there are enough legal migrant workers and immigrants to satisfy that need and it's not worth the risk of all the negative consequences of an open border.
Sure, the rich don't have to worry as much in their gated communities, but they've got to know they won't last long if the **** hits the fan and social order becomes a thing of the past.
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sheetsadam1 — 9 months ago(June 08, 2025 12:39 AM)
And there aren't enough Wall Streeters to drive an insane, ill-advised open border policy anyway; not even with all their valuable campaign contributions.
On the contrary, there isn't a single word uttered publicly by a politician, let alone a policy implemented that has not been wholly approved by Wall Street. Oh, there may be principled person here and there on both sides - think Bernie on the left or Thomas Massie on the right - but certainly not enough of them to drive any agenda forward.
Sure, the rich don't have to worry as much in their gated communities, but they've got to know they won't last long if the **** hits the fan and social order becomes a thing of the past.
They have private islands and yachts. They won't be around. Hell, they may even be on Mars by then.
They get their water from the same reservoir you do and they don't have enough ammo to hold out forever.
You're forgetting that they own the bottled water and ammo companies. There's nothing they would love more than total chaos.
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Lo-Speed Perzoot — 9 months ago(June 08, 2025 01:29 AM)
It sounds a bit like you're agreeing with me. But it doesn't matter if a bunch of Wall Streeters want cheap labor; they're smart enough to know a wide open border is pure insanity.
The only ones who will be able to get out when the SHTF are the ones who have a chopper or an airfield in their back yard and there aren't enough of those to push insanity.
No, only the most insane would welcome total chaos and defending their home and family non-stop 24/7. Five guys with molotov cocktails could overcome that in quick order anyway.
All this fantasizing by you with the goal of defending the concept of open borders? Get outta town.