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magnificent butthole — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 07:55 PM)
Innocent User said...
You’re welcome.
Thank you, I really do appreciate it.
Also, thanks for admitting you open your mouth without having really checked what you actually think about an issue.
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 03:36 PM)
You're an idiot for consistently having stupid views. Lilith has shown herself to be intelligent.
That said, it is pretty stupid to dismiss mental illness. What is it when a creature mutilates themselves, if not a mental problem?
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 03:45 PM)
The intent matters. Body modifiers are perfectly aware of what they are doing to themselves. They understand how it looks to other people. They aren't deluded into thinking it's something it isn't.
It's not like the women who get plastic surgery who think they are making themselves more attractive when they are actually turning themselves into uncanny beasts. Now THAT'S mental illness.
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 07:22 PM)
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The intent matters. Body modifiers are perfectly aware of what they are doing to themselves. They understand how it looks to other people. They aren't deluded into thinking it's something it isn't.
It's not like the women who get plastic surgery who think they are making themselves more attractive when they are actually turning themselves into uncanny beasts. Now THAT'S mental illness.
What's the difference?
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:27 PM)
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One is delusional about what they are doing to themselves and the other isn't.
Yet they're doing exactly the same thing. How are you able to declare one of them mentally ill but not the other?
Woke doctrine?
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:31 PM)
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Yet they're doing exactly the same thing. How are you able to declare one of them mentally ill but not the other?
Woke doctrine?
Because intent matters. They aren't doing the exact same thing at all. Body augmentation for the purpose of artistic expression is not the same as body augmentation to appear younger. Body augmentation to appear younger doesn't work, yet people do it anyway. That's mental illness, like people who think they can change their gender by cutting their penis off.
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:39 PM)
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Because intent matters. They aren't doing the exact same thing at all. Body augmentation for the purpose of artistic expression is not the same as body augmentation to appear younger. Body augmentation to appear younger doesn't work, yet people do it anyway. That's mental illness, like people who think they can change their gender by cutting their penis off.
I suppose people engage in body modification for a myriad of reasons.
So the question becomes, "Is the desire to modify one's own natural body a sign of mental disease?"
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:43 PM)
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I suppose people engage in body modification for a myriad of reasons.
So the question becomes, "Is the desire to modify one's own natural body a sign of mental disease?"
Depends on intent and whether they understand the consequences. Mentally ill people usually have misguided reasons for their actions because they don't understand the consequences.
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:50 PM)
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Depends on intent and whether they understand the consequences. Mentally ill people usually have misguided reasons for their actions because they don't understand the consequences.
What if they live in a world of zero consequences when they get the body modification? In fact, what if the people in that world give them likes and support when they modify themselves?
Generally, that sort of thing is unsustainable. That's normally how it goes for people who get by with their looks and no other appreciable skills.
How would you interpret their reasons for actions in that perspective. That's generally the perspective of someone more experienced. That wouldn't necessarily be the experience of a young person getting the procedures. The person getting themselves modified would probably need to get the modification and then live with it for a while to understand this completely at that point.
But would it be mental illness? I personally think they were just brainwashed a bit. But at what point would we see the brainwashing as mentally illness? At what point is it hurting them? They are benefiting from it financially in the short term. However, if they were say, part of some religion that takes a long view of something like this, it might be frowned upon.
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:52 PM)
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What if they live in a world of zero consequences when they get the body modification? In fact, what if the people in that world give them likes and support when they modify themselves?
Generally, that sort of thing is unsustainable. That's normally how it goes for people who get by with their looks and no other appreciable skills.
How would you interpret their reasons for actions in that perspective. That's generally the perspective of someone more experienced. That wouldn't necessarily be the experience of a young person getting the procedures. The person getting themselves modified would probably need to get the modification and then live with it for a while to understand this completely at that point.
But would it be mental illness? I personally think they were just brainwashed a bit. But at what point would we see the brainwashing as mentally illness? At what point is it hurting them? They are benefiting from it financially in the short term. However, if they were say, part of some religion that takes a long view of something like this, it might be frowned upon.
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However, if they were say, part of some religion that takes a long view of something like this, it might be frowned upon.
Maybe that's what happens when you worship money instead of what nature or god intended
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magnificent butthole — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 11:09 PM)
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Depends on intent and whether they understand the consequences. Mentally ill people usually have misguided reasons for their actions because they don't understand the consequences.
because they don't understand the consequences.
That's a bit of a non-specific cop out. Who really understands the consequences of their actions? Generally immature or inexperienced people. Why do some immature people make these types of decisions and many don't?
It has been said that if you hang out with crazy people in the asylum, it's only a matter of time before you become crazy yourself.
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:44 PM)
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I suppose people engage in body modification for a myriad of reasons.
So the question becomes, "Is the desire to modify one's own natural body a sign of mental disease?"
It should probably be best discussed on a case-by-case basis.
Body modification is rather permanent. Perhaps the person being modified doesn't see it that way or even think about that. They could be young and inexperienced.
Is being young and inexperienced a sign of mental illness? People modify themselves from the time they are born, whether it's their behaviour or their appearance (like their hair), at what point does once decide it's mental illness? Who decides?
I would agree that it's a slippery slope, just like everything else in this world of too many options.
At least we don't have to guess as much as to what's going on or not going on internally with these people.
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 10:59 PM)
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Because intent matters. They aren't doing the exact same thing at all. Body augmentation for the purpose of artistic expression is not the same as body augmentation to appear younger. Body augmentation to appear younger doesn't work, yet people do it anyway. That's mental illness, like people who think they can change their gender by cutting their penis off.
Sophist nonsense.
They're changing their body because they don't like how it looks. There's no difference.
It's a mental illness. Glad we cleared that up.
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IsraHell — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 03:47 PM)
You mean views you don't agree with.
So, she's usually smart, but on this, she's a moron?
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 07:23 PM)
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You mean views you don't agree with.
So, she's usually smart, but on this, she's a moron?
Do you think people who pierce their ears or get tattoos do so out of mental illness? How do you feel about circumcision?
That's right, I never agree with stupid views.
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/.ㅤ — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 06:13 AM)
Initially it was fear.
They were trying to fix something that was never broken and have become stuck in a feedback loop.
Imagine a Fugazi double down, but with body modification where a person doesn't really respect the one body they were born with. You may see him doing something retarded and comment on it. In your world, you're trying to correct the record by trying to set him straight, but in his world that's filling a different set of needs. He doesn't want to be better. But he does want to control the narrative, release tension from his cognitive dissonance feedback loop, fulfill a need for social engagement through attention, etc.
One the other side of that, it makes profiling them and tracking them much easier. Facial recognition isn't as perfect as the media wants you to believe.
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Innocent User — 10 months ago(May 09, 2025 07:31 AM)
They were trying to fix something that was never broken and have become stuck in a feedback loop.
Exactly. It starts out as a mask to hide a perceived ugliness, but then the mask itself is ugly, so it too must be hidden. Eventually, the mask becomes so hideous, all they have left is the double down and the hope that you'll be fooled into thinking they believe their personalized aesthetic looks "cool".
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