Australia does the stupid thing
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Madotsuki_the_Dreamer — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 05:49 AM)
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It literally says directly after "flawed democracy" that it is not a "full liberal democracy".
Once again, no true Scotsman fallacy. You said democracy. You're now trying to move the goalposts and say that it's not a "true" democracy.
Germany is a "full liberal democracy". Germany has effectively outlawed all criticism of Israel, and Germany also throws you in prison if you insult politicians. By your logic, you have no right to criticize that because they just have "different standards". Same with the UK throwing people in prison for posting bad taste jokes on the internet. -
/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:03 AM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
Once again, no true Scotsman fallacy. You said democracy. You're now trying to move the goalposts and say that it's not a "true" democracy.
Germany is a "full liberal democracy". Germany has effectively outlawed all criticism of Israel, and Germany also throws you in prison if you insult politicians. By your logic, you have no right to criticize that because they just have "different standards". Same with the UK throwing people in prison for posting bad taste jokes on the internet.
You can criticize whatever you want, but you should at least have a logical basis for your criticism. Democracy is a very simple concept. It is government decided by the people. If it's a government where election results are predetermined by the party in power, like the Turkish government, then it's not a democracy. There is no way around that.
Germany is a democracy, so you're on much better footing with this argument. However, it still doesn't support your point. Yes, Germany has some strong restrictions on speech, but this is not the result of an authoritarian state, this is the result of the public choosing politicians that supported these restrictions. If the public wanted to then they have the power to change the laws. You may not like the laws, but that's not relevant. You don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
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Madotsuki_the_Dreamer — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:14 AM)
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You can criticize whatever you want, but you should at least have a logical basis for your criticism. Democracy is a very simple concept. It is government decided by the people. If it's a government where election results are predetermined by the party in power, like the Turkish government, then it's not a democracy. There is no way around that.
Germany is a democracy, so you're on much better footing with this argument. However, it still doesn't support your point. Yes, Germany has some strong restrictions on speech, but this is not the result of an authoritarian state, this is the result of the public choosing politicians that supported these restrictions. If the public wanted to then they have the power to change the laws. You may not like the laws, but that's not relevant. You don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
You don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
Almost every single dictator was democratically elected, retard. And yes, I absolutely have the right to criticize government authoritarianism, whether it takes place in a Democracy
or otherwise. Do you think that the British people voted to throw people in prison for social media posts? No, they didn't. That was forced on them, just like the very unpopular Online Safety Act.
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/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:24 AM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
You don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
Almost every single dictator was democratically elected, retard. And yes, I absolutely have the right to criticize government authoritarianism, whether it takes place in a Democracy or otherwise. Do you think that the British people voted to throw people in prison for social media posts? No, they didn't. That was forced on them, just like the very unpopular Online Safety Act.
Also, stop hiding behind a slashdot, Warren, you sniveling coward.
By definition dictators are not elected.
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Madotsuki_the_Dreamer — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:35 AM)
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By definition dictators are not elected.
By definition dictators are not elected.
Vladimir Putin was democratically elected.
Nayib Bukele was democratically elected.
Viktor Orbán was democratically elected.
Daniel Ortega was democratically elected.
Mohamed Morsi was democratically elected.
Hugo Chávez was democratically elected.
Ferdinand Marcos was democratically elected.
Adolf Hitler was democratically elected.
Benito Mussolini was democratically elected.
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/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:38 AM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
By definition dictators are not elected.
Vladimir Putin was democratically elected.
Nayib Bukele was democratically elected.
Viktor Orbán was democratically elected.
Daniel Ortega was democratically elected.
Mohamed Morsi was democratically elected.
Hugo Chávez was democratically elected.
Ferdinand Marcos was democratically elected.
Adolf Hitler was democratically elected.
Benito Mussolini was democratically elected.
Need I go on further? Because I can.
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List four more.
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Madotsuki_the_Dreamer — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:44 AM)
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List four more.
Okay, sure thing.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was democratically elected.
Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow was democratically elected.
Ilham Aliyev was democratically elected.
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/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 02:17 PM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
Okay, sure thing.
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan was democratically elected.
Gurbanguly Berdimuhamedow was democratically elected.
Ilham Aliyev was democratically elected.
Slobodan Milošević was democratically elected.
List five more.
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/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:28 AM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
You don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
Almost every single dictator was democratically elected, retard. And yes, I absolutely have the right to criticize government authoritarianism, whether it takes place in a Democracy or otherwise. Do you think that the British people voted to throw people in prison for social media posts? No, they didn't. That was forced on them, just like the very unpopular Online Safety Act.
Also, stop hiding behind a slashdot, Warren, you sniveling coward.
I never said you don't have a right to criticize anyone. I specifically said you do have the right, but that in order to not look like a naive 12 year old who just got into politics a week ago, you should try to make your criticisms based in logic. Currently you are not meeting that standard. Regarding your question about these British laws, you don't seem to have an understanding of how the British government works. It's not an authoritarian state. It's a representative democracy. The people who made the laws you disagree with were elected by the public. If the public doesn't like how they are being governed, then they have full power to elect new politicians. That's how democracy works.
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Madotsuki_the_Dreamer — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:37 AM)
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I never said you don't have a right to criticize anyone. I specifically said you do have the right, but that in order to not look like a naive 12 year old who just got into politics a week ago, you should try to make your criticisms based in logic. Currently you are not meeting that standard. Regarding your question about these British laws, you don't seem to have an understanding of how the British government works. It's not an authoritarian state. It's a representative democracy. The people who made the laws you disagree with were elected by the public. If the public doesn't like how they are being governed, then they have full power to elect new politicians. That's how democracy works.
I never said you don't have a right to criticize anyone.
Then why are you bitching and moaning about me criticizing them, idiot?
The people who made the laws you disagree with were elected by the public.
Donald Trump was elected by the public as well, so I guess that everything that he's doing is fine too. The next time you criticize Trump, I'll just tell you that you don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable. -
/.ㅤ — 3 months ago(December 17, 2025 06:51 AM)
Madotsuki_the_Dreamer said...
I never said you don't have a right to criticize anyone.
Then why are you bitching and moaning about me criticizing them, idiot?
The people who made the laws you disagree with were elected by the public.
Donald Trump was elected by the public as well, so I guess that everything that he's doing is fine too. The next time you criticize Trump, I'll just tell you that you don't get to decide what another country finds acceptable.
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It's like I'm talking to a wall. I'll say it for the third time and maybe this time it will get through: you are allowed to criticize whoever you want, but if you are attempting to make a convincing argument, which I'm 50/50 on that you're actually trying to do, then you should at least have it make some sense. When your whole point is "the evil government is working against the will of its people" and that government in question is one that the people elected and have the power to remove, you have a flawed argument.
My password is password.