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    rudeboymurray — 3 years ago(July 21, 2022 05:46 AM)

    Caan had m\a deeper role and did a great job. Bates was good fun but the character didn’t have an awful lot of range - she is much better as another King character, Dolores Claiborne a few years later.

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      ToastedCheese — 3 years ago(July 21, 2022 08:05 AM)

      Bates was good fun but the character didn’t have an awful lot of range - she is much better as another King character, Dolores Claiborne a few years later.
      Yes, I have recently mentioned that to another poster. The range could have been forthcoming though, had Reiner and Goldman taken a different approach to how they wanted to portray Wilkes. Bates needed to be edgier.
      The film could still have been darkly humorous, but born naturally out of the situation, than a forced representation.
      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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        BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 01:29 AM)

        The book feels a little more serious and darker. It really is a horror novel. The film is a nice Hitchcockian suspense thriller, but it does lack the sadism of the book. And is a tad goofy at times.

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          ToastedCheese — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:20 AM)

          The film bordered too much on satire and falls flat in spots.
          The undertaking of representing King's intimate and claustrophobic tale kept tripping itself up. Reiner wanted to make it more mainstream and therefore was the wrong choice to direct.
          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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            The Kraken — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:42 AM)

            I think both actors did amazing.

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              ToastedCheese — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:43 AM)

              No one cares what you think, you aren't very clever.
              Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                The Kraken — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:46 AM)

                Oh hush up

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                  /.​ — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 12:00 PM)

                  Good for you.
                  My password is password

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                    exithereplease — 3 months ago(December 29, 2025 11:05 PM)

                    Disagree completely.

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                      ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:20 AM)

                      You don’t really, you’re just in denial.
                      Enlighten me please about what you disagree with?
                      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                        Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 29, 2025 11:35 PM)

                        It’s a perfect film, and is better than the very good novel. Goldman nailed the screenplay, Reiner crushes the direction, keeping the focus on the actors (and rightly changing the foot amputation to an ankle smashing - something Goldman objected to but was totally won over by when he saw the finished piece)
                        Caan is perfect as Paul, and Bates is incredible as Annie. She deserved that award, and all the subsequent praise.

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                          ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:28 AM)

                          I have read the excellent novel twice. No film adaptation can be the novel. Sometimes they are better, sometimes they aren’t.
                          It is a very good film, with a technically erratic performance by Bates. It is too forced. While her character was erratic, her representation of Wilkes’s psychosis was not sublime or nuanced enough to be believable.
                          Check an earlier post I made about performance compares.
                          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                            Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 08:27 AM)

                            Bates delivered a knockout performance, absolutely perfect, wouldn’t change a frame.

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                              ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 12:28 PM)

                              Then you don’t understand acting.
                              Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:20 PM)

                                Yeah, I’ll take the opinion of professionals and the Academy Awards over some worthless internet maggot. Thanks for playing, though.

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                                  ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 09:31 PM)

                                  Since when was the Academy the voice of reason?
                                  Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                    Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 10:50 PM)

                                    From its inception to about 2015.
                                    When were
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                                      ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(January 03, 2026 12:04 PM)

                                      What is reasonable about the Academy’s so called voice of reason? Sounds like you aren’t listening to reason.
                                      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                        Melton1 — 3 months ago(January 03, 2026 02:19 PM)

                                        The Academy was reasonable from its inception to about 2015.
                                        When were
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                                          ToastedCheese — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 06:17 AM)

                                          They fully lost it at the end of the 20th Century. The 90’s was the beginning starting with Misery.
                                          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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