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Caan was better than Bates

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    The Kraken — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:42 AM)

    I think both actors did amazing.

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      ToastedCheese — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:43 AM)

      No one cares what you think, you aren't very clever.
      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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        The Kraken — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 11:46 AM)

        Oh hush up

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          /.​ — 2 years ago(September 13, 2023 12:00 PM)

          Good for you.
          My password is password

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            exithereplease — 3 months ago(December 29, 2025 11:05 PM)

            Disagree completely.

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              ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:20 AM)

              You don’t really, you’re just in denial.
              Enlighten me please about what you disagree with?
              Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 29, 2025 11:35 PM)

                It’s a perfect film, and is better than the very good novel. Goldman nailed the screenplay, Reiner crushes the direction, keeping the focus on the actors (and rightly changing the foot amputation to an ankle smashing - something Goldman objected to but was totally won over by when he saw the finished piece)
                Caan is perfect as Paul, and Bates is incredible as Annie. She deserved that award, and all the subsequent praise.

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                  ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:28 AM)

                  I have read the excellent novel twice. No film adaptation can be the novel. Sometimes they are better, sometimes they aren’t.
                  It is a very good film, with a technically erratic performance by Bates. It is too forced. While her character was erratic, her representation of Wilkes’s psychosis was not sublime or nuanced enough to be believable.
                  Check an earlier post I made about performance compares.
                  Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                    Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 08:27 AM)

                    Bates delivered a knockout performance, absolutely perfect, wouldn’t change a frame.

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                      ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 12:28 PM)

                      Then you don’t understand acting.
                      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                        Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 02:20 PM)

                        Yeah, I’ll take the opinion of professionals and the Academy Awards over some worthless internet maggot. Thanks for playing, though.

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                          ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 09:31 PM)

                          Since when was the Academy the voice of reason?
                          Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                            Melton1 — 3 months ago(December 30, 2025 10:50 PM)

                            From its inception to about 2015.
                            When were
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                            ever the voice of reason?

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                              ToastedCheese — 3 months ago(January 03, 2026 12:04 PM)

                              What is reasonable about the Academy’s so called voice of reason? Sounds like you aren’t listening to reason.
                              Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                Melton1 — 3 months ago(January 03, 2026 02:19 PM)

                                The Academy was reasonable from its inception to about 2015.
                                When were
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                                ever the voice of reason?

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                                  ToastedCheese — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 06:17 AM)

                                  They fully lost it at the end of the 20th Century. The 90’s was the beginning starting with Misery.
                                  Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                    Cheeky — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 06:30 AM)

                                    Bates recently said that being in Misery changed the trajectory of her life
                                    Rob Reiner casting her gave her recognition and it's why we know her today
                                    If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                      ToastedCheese — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 07:07 AM)

                                      Yes, it put her on radar and the acclaim she got did nothing but boost her career.
                                      Actors that win Oscars can usually find it difficult to live up to the hype, especially newcomers. Bates just got better and better.
                                      1989 & 1990 weren’t exceptional years for leading ladies. Any other year, Bates may have not been victorious. The following year was very strong 1991.
                                      Norman! What did you put in my tea?

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                                        Cheeky — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 06:59 PM)

                                        You know your stuff, Toasty 👍
                                        If we take the time to see with the heart and not with the mind, we shall see that we are surrounded completely by angels ~ Carlos Santana

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                                          Melton1 — 2 months ago(January 08, 2026 08:34 AM)

                                          Bullshit.
                                          The Academy was reasonable from its inception to about 2015.
                                          When were
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                                          ever the voice of reason?

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