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DeltaFlotFan — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 09:34 AM)
It also must be remembered that some of the cast leaving was due to outside factors. Sinclair was supposed to be in for the whole series, but the actor developed mental stability issues, so he had to written out, and not seen again until his ultimate destiny could be squeezed in. Depending on who you believe, Claudia was either fired or quit before Season 5, which changing her destiny to command the station in that last season, and we got stuck with what's her name. Even though there was a complete plan for B5, it like military plans, had to change when it met reality.
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jakeconhale — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 01:21 PM)
Yes, but that was also part of the strength of the series.
There were backup plans, contingency plans. This actor left? Oh well, bring in a new one. The arcs had contingency plans - the "trap doors".
Sinclair left so we got Sheridan, different character but achieves a similar end. Then there's the telepath shuffle or how the original Doc's stim addictions shifted to Franklin.
And yet, the story itself went on, because (outside of JMS) there wasn't a single point of failure.
I would love to know what the unused trap doors were, though. Once you lock in Londo as being Emperor, what if Jurasik left/died? Just "oh, he's been recalled to Centauri Prime, very busy, now it's all Vir"?
I mean, I could see G'Kar being replaced by Ta'lon or whoever that was (sword narn), most of the Earth personnel could just be replaced by their subordinates with adjusted stories (Allen becomes Garibaldi - swapping drinks for whatever addiction Allen had, Corwin becomes Ivanova, etc), but what about Delenn? Lennier just picking up her mantle in honor of her memory?
Anyways, I digress - these trap doors are indicative of the adaptability and planning inherent in the series. Other shows that are just winging it as they go along lack the ability for long term foreshadowing or as satisfying conclusions
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purple_dave — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 03:45 PM)
All of the cast changes were explained away within the series, but were ultimately due to real-world reasons.
Takashima, the original Doctor, and Lyta were all replaced due to post-pilot tweaking going into the regular series, but they all also happened to be present when Kosh' encounter suit was opened and that was given as a rumored reason for why they were all recalled back to Earth. Talia had the sleeper agent thing, but in reality the actress wasn't happy that she wasn't given a focal role like Deanna Troi (who once showed up in the docking bay to bid farewell to a basketball player dressed as a Klingon just to fulfill contractual obligations to have all the main cast in every episode so they could all get paid accordingly). Sinclair was inducted into the Rangers, but O'Hare not so much developed a mental disorder as the pressures of filming a regular series as one of the main-main cast made it too difficult for him to cope with his situation (the same basic reason that Roy Harper got written out of Arrow). And Claudia Christian played hardball with the final season's contract and missed her deadline, while Ivanova left to persue her career after Marcus' death.
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Theoden_of_ODU — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 11:09 AM)
I've heard of other shows proudly boasting they are writing 6 episodes ahead of the airing episode. That's not a good thing - it means you have no long term plan.
I remember the guy behind Heroes, Tim Kring, being incredibly proud about how they were writing scripts about 4 episodes ahead of what was being filmed at the time.
If you're writing a serialized show full of soap opera-style twists and turns out of left-field, and don't care about the long term quality of a story arc, then by not having a plan (
and 4 or 6 episodes ahead of where the show is being filmed or aired is not a plan
) is certainly fine. Just don't be shocked if the end result looks strung together haphazardly.
Hell, even 24 started the series without a back-half of the season
Certainly true about season one, and I wouldn't be shocked if it was true about nearly every other season the show ever aired (I can only guess since I don't know details about the show's production after season one). You can break down most seasons of 24 into at least 2 or 3 main story-arcs, with usually an episode or two of transition/overlap between each "part." In some cases, the stories shift so radically that events earlier in the season don't even make a reappearance.
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kerryedavis — 9 years ago(January 23, 2017 12:23 PM)
I remember the guy behind Heroes, Tim Kring, being incredibly proud about how they were writing scripts about 4 episodes ahead of what was being filmed at the time.
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preachcaleb — 1 month ago(February 23, 2026 09:07 PM)
I'd have to disagree about not having review value. Rewatching the show knowing what's coming creates many opportunities to catch little moments of foreshadowing that may have gone unnoticed on an initial viewing.
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Carzavol — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 04:03 AM)
Hello,
I came across this on a Pirates of the Caribbean board and thought I'd share it.
It has been made independently and to be as close to the current boards as possible. They have not implemented individual movie boards yet, but it's a good start IMO.
I hope this is helpful for a lot of you - I know it'll help me get over the fact the real boards are disappearing!
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RIP_IMDb — 9 years ago(February 07, 2017 04:11 AM)
I'll do!
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