The B word and the disrespect shown on this board
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Crentapa — 14 years ago(October 21, 2011 11:56 AM)
Correction:
The character really wasn't a nagging bitch, she served the "rational mind" aspect.
Burt, the town is empty, let's keep on driving. Burt, there's a dead guy here, let's keep on driving. Burt there's murderous children in there let's get the hell out of here!!! Burt, I've been killed by pagen children and now they'll get you bet you wish you had listened to me now.
Logical Mind is ALWAYS that "nagging" part; (and honestly, the movie began with her being BORED. Like anyone would be on a long road trip).
Burt is the classic "testosterone" character, ignoring all rational thought and charging forward to his inevitable destruction. Given that if Burt had even ONCE listened to Vicki and simply Drove Away, both of them would still be alive; her "nagging" seems justified.
Now, take a moment and reverse the roles. Vicki is now the "Let's have an adventure Burt. No Burt, I wanna go inside the church, you can wait in the car so some kids can kill you at a dramatic moment."
People just have a low level of respect for women (even women themselves) and hence, even though Burt was extremely emotionally detached, cared more about his adventure than Vicki, and got them both killed focus on the WOMAN. -
JackDnCoke — 14 years ago(October 22, 2011 06:02 PM)
We must have watched different movies, because noone hated her for being rational, they hated her for being a nagging bitch.
There is no subliminal characterization taking place here, and no lack of respect for a particular gender either.
If I go into a garden and need a rake, do I just say "bring the tool" or do I say "bring the rake"? Both would be correct but 1 is more applicable. Just because she AT TIMES is the voice of reason doesn't change anything. a rake is a rake and a nagging bitch is a nagging bitch no matter if it is trying to serve more purpose or not. -
tony23-3 — 14 years ago(October 24, 2011 12:13 PM)
Vicki wanted to dump the body, leave evidence behind, and go on without acknowledging what had happened. Burt wanted to find someone to report the incident to and to present the evidence to.
Enough nagging and you eventually get tuned out - which is what ended up happening to Vicki. Something like the boy who cried wolf.
And my daughter called Vicki a bitch within the first five minutes. -
Ten-Inch-Toni — 11 years ago(May 24, 2014 12:30 AM)
You are a rare man indeed. In intelligent observation on an IMDB thread. Kudos for attempting to bring a little enlightenment to the conversation.
I had a much longer rant here but decided to delete it after reading the very last remark at the end of this thread. This "fluff-person" has decided to share with us his knowledge that we can thank the Black culture specifically Black Rap and Hip-Hop for saturating our society with the word.
I decided to Google the origins of the current popular use of the topic of our discussion and this is what I found and thought some of you might enjoy reading it. The author of the essay is Clare Bayley who wrote it for a class on "Feminist Political Thought" at MIT. Please don't let the course title keep you from reading her paper.
http://clarebayley.com/2011/06/bitch-a-history/
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jbaker1-2 — 1 year ago(January 25, 2025 08:55 PM)
Respect must be earned. It isn't automatically owed simply because you have a vagina.
There are 8.2 billion people in the world. 8.19 billion of them have never heard of and don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Get over it. -
jbaker1-2 — 1 year ago(January 25, 2025 08:54 PM)
Why bring Vicki's race into it at all?
I might bring it up to illustrate the point that the same people who whine about "whitewashing" seem to have no problem with "blackfacing."
There are 8.2 billion people in the world. 8.19 billion of them have never heard of and don't give a fuck about Charlie Kirk. Get over it. -
Kurliqgirl — 14 years ago(October 27, 2011 08:22 PM)
She was a total BITCH. I was waiting for her to be slapped. She was a crazy BITCH.
As a female I approve the use of this word in referring to her
Pro-Choice not Pro-Abortion
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fallen_elite — 14 years ago(October 27, 2011 11:55 PM)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bitch
You will notice that the first few definition are not gender specific. They are using slang, most of which was to put emphasis on the character's excessive nagging and/or complaining.
Personally, I believe their relationship was over the top. It was so bad that I was just glad one of them died so it would end. Furthermore, she honestly didn't seem resonable at all. No one in the movie did. The little boy trying to warn her husband was the most reasonable character, in my opinion. If he had listened to her and kept driving, they would have lived. That doesn't mean she is reasonable. She was actually very frantic, espeically in her attempts to insult her husband.
Anyways, you may be a lot happier if you calmed down and didn't take offense so quickly. -
ScorpionTDC — 12 years ago(August 19, 2013 08:45 AM)
Because she WAS a bitch. It has nothing to do with her being a woman! (Go watch the Mother's Day remake. Plenty of woman in that and
none
are bitches)
The first time we meet her she's yelling at her boyfriend, and then when he accidentally runs a kid over, which he's PROBABLY in shock over, she starts screaming at him non-stop about how he just murdered a boy and is going to jail (when it turns out he didn't even cause the boy's death) Not to mention she constantly takes shot at him every single time she can. So no, she's called a bitch because that's what she is. -
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unknown_soul278 — 12 years ago(October 05, 2013 05:33 PM)
I am a woman, and after her first little rant my first thought was 'What a bitch!". That opinion did not improve throughout the movie. I don't think it is right to refer to all women as bitches, but in some cases it fits. This is one of them. And what do her looks have to do with anything? Pretty women can be just as bitchy as less attractive ones.
She blames him for everything, yells constantly, deliberately pushes all his buttons, and denigrates his military service. Where I am from, that is considered being a bitch by women as much as by men.