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    unex — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 12:12 PM)

    What did you watch?

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      unex — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 12:12 PM)

      A New Leaf (1971) - Sort of rewatch. I was occupied with something else the first time I watched it and probably missed a lot. Walter Matthau as a loathsome and ridiculous upper class man who finds himself poor and Elaine May as an awkward woman he intends to marry for money. It's her first film as director and pretty funny and probably underrated. It's too bad she made so few films, but she might be directing a new one at 93 years old.
      The Odd Couple (1968) - Rewatch. I think it's the first time I watched it through in one sitting. Walter Matthau and Jack Lemon as mismatched roommates. They're both really good in this though I give the edge to Lemon, who is really irritating, and the Pigeon sisters who remind me of some twin sisters I knew.
      Hopscotch (1980) - Rewatch. Another Walter Matthau, this time he plays a spy who leaves the CIA and leads them on a chase. I like it but there isn't a lot of suspense. It's a comedy but always being one step ahead of your pursuers isn't that interesting to watch. I watched what must have been a version for TV since Ned Beatty's swearing was obviously being dubbed to something tamer.

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        spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 21, 2025 02:26 PM)

        Of your titles, unex, I've only seen THE ODD COUPLE, which I saw when it was first released and remember really enjoying it.
        And I've always meant to watch A NEW LEAF, but for whatever reason I've never managed it. If I'm not mistaken, it has some historical significance, because I think it was the first Hollywood film directed by a woman since Ida Lupino had stopped directing in the 1960s (and no feature from her since the 1950s). I really need to watch this one, so thanks for the reminder. And it would be great if she directed a new film at her age. Hope she does it.
        And from your comments, it sounds like I can skip HOPSCOTCH.

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          unex — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 02:05 PM)

          If I'm not mistaken, it has some historical significance, because I think it was the first Hollywood film directed by a woman since Ida Lupino had stopped directing in the 1960s (and no feature from her since the 1950s).
          That sounds likely since Hollywood was so reluctant to let women direct. They stopped letting her direct after Mikey and Nicky went over budget and when Ishtar flopped eleven years later that was the end for her.

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            spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 03:24 PM)

            I didn't know why she stopped directing, but it doesn't surprise me re: the budget; women had a hard time being able to get anything done back in those days. Had it been a male director who went over budget, I think it would have been a different story. But
            Ishtar
            , I have to say, was pretty bad. I haven't seen
            Mikey and Nicky
            yet (shame on me), but I know it got good reviews, so I really need to watch that one.

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              sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 02:11 PM)

              And I've always meant to watch A NEW LEAF, but for whatever reason I've never managed it. If I'm not mistaken, it has some historical significance, because I think it was the first Hollywood film directed by a woman since Ida Lupino had stopped directing in the 1960s (and no feature from her since the 1950s).
              It wasn't a major studio film, but Barbara Loden's
              Wanda
              was released a year earlier.
              There was also B-movie filmmaker Doris Wishman, Shirley Clarke who mostly worked in the documentary field, and Stephanie Rothman and Barbara Peeters, both filmmakers in Roger Corman's orbit. But, again, these weren't major studio pictures.
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                spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 03:13 PM)

                Yes, indeed. You are so right about Loden and all the others. They were not in the Hollywood mainstream, but their works were very important for sure. So glad they were able to get them done at all. And Loden only made a couple of shorts after
                Wanda
                – an excellent film – before she sadly passed away from cancer in 1980 at the age of 48. I loved her work as an actress, too.

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                  sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 27, 2025 09:51 PM)

                  Wanda
                  is among my favorite films.
                  And this discussion has actually prompted me to embark on a new project starting in January. I was toying with the idea of completing the entire filmography of some very prolific and undersung golden age director within a year. Michael Curtiz and Henry Hathaway were both under consideration. But what is more undersung than the contributions of female directors to 20th century cinema? I worried if there would be enough, but after some research I think I've found enough titles released between about 1915 and 1999 to handle one a week without focusing too much on any single director.
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                    spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 01:33 AM)

                    That's a great idea. Back in the early 1900s there were very prominent women directors in the world and in Hollywood, too, especially Alice Guy-Blaché and Lois Weber. And, of course, there have been numerous female directors who've risen to prominence since then, notwithstanding the gap between Ida Lupino and Elaine May in the early seventies (and Loden, too, but she wasn't in the Hollywood mainstream, as we've said).
                    And if you haven't seen it, I would recommend watching the documentary about Alice Guy, aka Guy-Blaché, the first female director in the world, who from 1896 to 1920 directed around a thousand films, most of them lost, though I've seen a few. The documentary is called
                    Be Natural: The Untold Story of Alice Guy-Blaché
                    (2018), narrated by Jodie Foster. It's on Tubi.
                    Here's the trailer:
                    I've only seen a few of her films, but I enjoyed her short
                    Falling Leaves
                    (1912) quite a lot. It's based upon an O. Henry story.
                    And here's a link to many of her films available on Youtube:
                    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8apeEKQttGyKO8ehUc_OlCrFyVW1DBf
                    Good luck on your new endeavor. I think it's a really great idea.

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                      spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 01:43 AM)

                      Well, now you've got me going. Here's a short doc about Lois Weber, the first woman to direct a feature film.
                      If you can find it, I love her hour long film,
                      Shoes
                      (1916). It's on YouTube, but it's colorized. I saw the black and white version but can't find it now.

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                        sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 02:04 AM)

                        Shoes
                        is actually on the tentative list I've put together along with another of her films. And I'll watch the Alice Guy-Blaché short and those documentaries for sure. Thanks! 😊 The directors I plan to hit (some of these will be rewatches) are:
                        Lois Weber
                        Ruth Ann Baldwin
                        Frances Marion
                        Germain Dulac
                        Alla Nazimova
                        Lotte Reiniger
                        Dorothy Arzner
                        Leni Riefenstahl 😫
                        Maya Deren
                        Bodil Ipsen
                        Ida Lupino
                        Agnès Varda
                        Shirley Clarke
                        Doris Wishman
                        Barbara Loden
                        Barbara Peeters
                        Stephanie Rothman
                        Elaine May
                        Jane Arden
                        Chantal Akerman
                        Joan Micklin Silver
                        Lina Wertmüller
                        Barbara Kopple
                        Roberta Findlay
                        Claudia Weill
                        Penelope Spheeris
                        Amy Heckerling
                        Lizzie Borden
                        Martha Coolidge
                        Susan Seidelman
                        Lee Grant
                        Joyce Chopra
                        Donna Deitch
                        Kathryn Bigelow
                        Penny Marshall
                        Mary Lambert
                        Euzhan Palcy
                        Jennie Livingston
                        Julie Dash
                        Leslie Harris
                        Nora Ephron
                        Jane Campion
                        Kimberly Pierce
                        Sofia Coppola
                        And possibly Barbra Streisand…
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                          spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 04:49 AM)

                          Great list! Some really great directors there. And please do include Barbara Streisand. I attended the DGA awards the year
                          Yentl
                          came out, and I was appalled when the male host, whose name I can't recall, literally mocked Streisand for daring to direct a film, one that in my opinion was an exceptional accomplishment. Even more appalling was that in the audience that night was a woman, Sharron Miller, who was the first woman ever nominated for directing a drama (non-documentary), and she won! Such was the world for women directors back in the day (and that was the early 80s, if I recall).

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                            sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 12:40 PM)

                            Daughters of Darkness (1971)
                            Directed by Harry Kümel
                            A great vampire film bolstered by some great cinematography and an excellent performance from Delphine Seyrig.
                            8/10
                            Ravenous (1999)
                            Directed by Antonia Bird
                            Rewatch. Not for the squeamish, but this cannibal Western reveals hidden depths with every rewatch.
                            9.5/10
                            Also watched:
                            My Father, the BTK Killer (2025, Skye Borgman) documentary
                            The Woman in Cabin 10 (2025, Simon Stone)
                            Thunderbolts* (2025, Jake Schreier)
                            V/H/S/Halloween (2025, various directors)
                            Vicious (2025, Bryan Bertino)
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                              PygmyLion — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 09:40 PM)

                              Joan of Paris
                              1942 - Michele Morgan, Paul Henreid, Thomas Mitchell, Laird Cregar. WWII - five British Flyers downed in France try to get back to England. ***
                              Underground
                              1941 - Jeffry Lynn, Phillip Dorn, Kaaren Verne, Mona Maris, Martin Kosleck. WWII resistance in Germany. One thing interesting about this movie is it was released in June 28, 1941 and has a character whose son died when the Bismark was sunk on May 27, 1941, so the movie was done pretty quickly, and also was released 5 months before Pearl Harbor. The story is about 2 German brothers. One, Eric Franken (Dorn) works for the German underground broadcasting anti-government messages over the radio, and the other Kurt (Lynn) is a soldier who has just returned from the front where he lost an arm and he is still loyal to the government. Both are interested in Sylvia (Verne), who works as a violinist in a bar and with the underground. Kosleck plays Colonel Heller the top German officer and Maris plays Frau Gessner a resistance spy in his HQ. - ***1/2
                              Sullivan's Travels
                              1941 - Joel McCrea, Veronica Lake. Director Preston Sturgis. ***1/2
                              The Great Sinner
                              1949 Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner. I only made it about 60% through before getting really bored. **
                              If Winter Comes
                              1948 - Walter Pidgeon, Deborah Kerr, Angela Landsbury, Janet Leigh. - ***

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                                spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 21, 2025 12:29 AM)

                                Sullivan's Travels
                                is one of my favorites, PL. It's a joy to watch, brilliantly written and directed by Sturges, with wonderful performances by all the cast. And I love that it dips into the darkness and despair of the Depression to evoke Sullivan's transformation, manifested so beautifully in the the scene in the theatre.
                                I don't think I've seen any of your other films;
                                If Winter Comes
                                , maybe, but I'm not sure. I think I'd probably remember if I had. But
                                Underground
                                sounds like one I should see. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

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                                  CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 02:44 AM)

                                  The Cat Creature
                                  on October 12
                                  Carnival of Souls
                                  on October 13
                                  Dead of Night
                                  (1977) on October 14
                                  The Night Stalker
                                  on October 15
                                  Ghost Story
                                  , later
                                  Circle of Fear
                                  , pilot episode (not a movie) on October 16
                                  Dark Shadows
                                  (2012) on October 17
                                  The Canterville Ghost
                                  (1975) on October 18

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                                    sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 02:53 AM)

                                    Carnival of Souls is one of my all-time favorites. I should watch it before October ends.
                                    Ghost Story with Fred Astaire? That was a very mediocre adaptation of a brilliant novel.
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                                      CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 04:20 PM)

                                      Carnival of Souls is one of my all-time favorites. I should watch it before October ends.
                                      Ghost Story with Fred Astaire? That was a very mediocre adaptation of a brilliant novel.
                                      I review every film I watch but I haven't been posting them here as I wasn't exactly welcomed when I joined. In fact, this is the only thread I've been participating in so thanks for answering.
                                      No,
                                      Ghost Story
                                      was a TV series hosted by Sebastian Cabot. About halfway through they changed the title to
                                      Circle of Fear
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                                        spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 21, 2025 12:48 AM)

                                        I quite enjoyed
                                        Carnival of Souls
                                        , Cori. I don't know if you know that a lot of it was shot in the (then) small college town of Lawrence, Kansas (home of the University of Kansas). And the rest was shot in Utah. I have connections to both places, so I always enjoy seeing it for that reason alone. And it was made for almost nothing, literally – about $33,000.00, but it's become a cult classic through the years. The director, Harvey Herk, was making industrial and educational films in Lawrence when he decided to put this film together. Kudos to him for being able to do it. It's not a great film, by any means, but it is a very entertaining one.
                                        P.S. Would it be possible for you to put the year of release on all of your titles? It would very helpful to me in particular, if you could. Many thanks.

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                                          CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 22, 2025 01:20 AM)

                                          P.S. Would it be possible for you to put the year of release on all of your titles? It would very helpful to me in particular, if you could. Many thanks.
                                          So far I've only been doing that when I know there is more than one film of the same title but I guess I could.

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