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    unex — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 02:05 PM)

    If I'm not mistaken, it has some historical significance, because I think it was the first Hollywood film directed by a woman since Ida Lupino had stopped directing in the 1960s (and no feature from her since the 1950s).
    That sounds likely since Hollywood was so reluctant to let women direct. They stopped letting her direct after Mikey and Nicky went over budget and when Ishtar flopped eleven years later that was the end for her.

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      spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 03:24 PM)

      I didn't know why she stopped directing, but it doesn't surprise me re: the budget; women had a hard time being able to get anything done back in those days. Had it been a male director who went over budget, I think it would have been a different story. But
      Ishtar
      , I have to say, was pretty bad. I haven't seen
      Mikey and Nicky
      yet (shame on me), but I know it got good reviews, so I really need to watch that one.

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        sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 02:11 PM)

        And I've always meant to watch A NEW LEAF, but for whatever reason I've never managed it. If I'm not mistaken, it has some historical significance, because I think it was the first Hollywood film directed by a woman since Ida Lupino had stopped directing in the 1960s (and no feature from her since the 1950s).
        It wasn't a major studio film, but Barbara Loden's
        Wanda
        was released a year earlier.
        There was also B-movie filmmaker Doris Wishman, Shirley Clarke who mostly worked in the documentary field, and Stephanie Rothman and Barbara Peeters, both filmmakers in Roger Corman's orbit. But, again, these weren't major studio pictures.
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          spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 26, 2025 03:13 PM)

          Yes, indeed. You are so right about Loden and all the others. They were not in the Hollywood mainstream, but their works were very important for sure. So glad they were able to get them done at all. And Loden only made a couple of shorts after
          Wanda
          – an excellent film – before she sadly passed away from cancer in 1980 at the age of 48. I loved her work as an actress, too.

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            sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 27, 2025 09:51 PM)

            Wanda
            is among my favorite films.
            And this discussion has actually prompted me to embark on a new project starting in January. I was toying with the idea of completing the entire filmography of some very prolific and undersung golden age director within a year. Michael Curtiz and Henry Hathaway were both under consideration. But what is more undersung than the contributions of female directors to 20th century cinema? I worried if there would be enough, but after some research I think I've found enough titles released between about 1915 and 1999 to handle one a week without focusing too much on any single director.
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              spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 01:33 AM)

              That's a great idea. Back in the early 1900s there were very prominent women directors in the world and in Hollywood, too, especially Alice Guy-Blaché and Lois Weber. And, of course, there have been numerous female directors who've risen to prominence since then, notwithstanding the gap between Ida Lupino and Elaine May in the early seventies (and Loden, too, but she wasn't in the Hollywood mainstream, as we've said).
              And if you haven't seen it, I would recommend watching the documentary about Alice Guy, aka Guy-Blaché, the first female director in the world, who from 1896 to 1920 directed around a thousand films, most of them lost, though I've seen a few. The documentary is called
              Be Natural: The Untold Story of Alice Guy-Blaché
              (2018), narrated by Jodie Foster. It's on Tubi.
              Here's the trailer:
              I've only seen a few of her films, but I enjoyed her short
              Falling Leaves
              (1912) quite a lot. It's based upon an O. Henry story.
              And here's a link to many of her films available on Youtube:
              https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLy8apeEKQttGyKO8ehUc_OlCrFyVW1DBf
              Good luck on your new endeavor. I think it's a really great idea.

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                spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 01:43 AM)

                Well, now you've got me going. Here's a short doc about Lois Weber, the first woman to direct a feature film.
                If you can find it, I love her hour long film,
                Shoes
                (1916). It's on YouTube, but it's colorized. I saw the black and white version but can't find it now.

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                  sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 02:04 AM)

                  Shoes
                  is actually on the tentative list I've put together along with another of her films. And I'll watch the Alice Guy-Blaché short and those documentaries for sure. Thanks! 😊 The directors I plan to hit (some of these will be rewatches) are:
                  Lois Weber
                  Ruth Ann Baldwin
                  Frances Marion
                  Germain Dulac
                  Alla Nazimova
                  Lotte Reiniger
                  Dorothy Arzner
                  Leni Riefenstahl 😫
                  Maya Deren
                  Bodil Ipsen
                  Ida Lupino
                  Agnès Varda
                  Shirley Clarke
                  Doris Wishman
                  Barbara Loden
                  Barbara Peeters
                  Stephanie Rothman
                  Elaine May
                  Jane Arden
                  Chantal Akerman
                  Joan Micklin Silver
                  Lina Wertmüller
                  Barbara Kopple
                  Roberta Findlay
                  Claudia Weill
                  Penelope Spheeris
                  Amy Heckerling
                  Lizzie Borden
                  Martha Coolidge
                  Susan Seidelman
                  Lee Grant
                  Joyce Chopra
                  Donna Deitch
                  Kathryn Bigelow
                  Penny Marshall
                  Mary Lambert
                  Euzhan Palcy
                  Jennie Livingston
                  Julie Dash
                  Leslie Harris
                  Nora Ephron
                  Jane Campion
                  Kimberly Pierce
                  Sofia Coppola
                  And possibly Barbra Streisand…
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                    spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 28, 2025 04:49 AM)

                    Great list! Some really great directors there. And please do include Barbara Streisand. I attended the DGA awards the year
                    Yentl
                    came out, and I was appalled when the male host, whose name I can't recall, literally mocked Streisand for daring to direct a film, one that in my opinion was an exceptional accomplishment. Even more appalling was that in the audience that night was a woman, Sharron Miller, who was the first woman ever nominated for directing a drama (non-documentary), and she won! Such was the world for women directors back in the day (and that was the early 80s, if I recall).

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                      sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 12:40 PM)

                      Daughters of Darkness (1971)
                      Directed by Harry Kümel
                      A great vampire film bolstered by some great cinematography and an excellent performance from Delphine Seyrig.
                      8/10
                      Ravenous (1999)
                      Directed by Antonia Bird
                      Rewatch. Not for the squeamish, but this cannibal Western reveals hidden depths with every rewatch.
                      9.5/10
                      Also watched:
                      My Father, the BTK Killer (2025, Skye Borgman) documentary
                      The Woman in Cabin 10 (2025, Simon Stone)
                      Thunderbolts* (2025, Jake Schreier)
                      V/H/S/Halloween (2025, various directors)
                      Vicious (2025, Bryan Bertino)
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                        PygmyLion — 5 months ago(October 19, 2025 09:40 PM)

                        Joan of Paris
                        1942 - Michele Morgan, Paul Henreid, Thomas Mitchell, Laird Cregar. WWII - five British Flyers downed in France try to get back to England. ***
                        Underground
                        1941 - Jeffry Lynn, Phillip Dorn, Kaaren Verne, Mona Maris, Martin Kosleck. WWII resistance in Germany. One thing interesting about this movie is it was released in June 28, 1941 and has a character whose son died when the Bismark was sunk on May 27, 1941, so the movie was done pretty quickly, and also was released 5 months before Pearl Harbor. The story is about 2 German brothers. One, Eric Franken (Dorn) works for the German underground broadcasting anti-government messages over the radio, and the other Kurt (Lynn) is a soldier who has just returned from the front where he lost an arm and he is still loyal to the government. Both are interested in Sylvia (Verne), who works as a violinist in a bar and with the underground. Kosleck plays Colonel Heller the top German officer and Maris plays Frau Gessner a resistance spy in his HQ. - ***1/2
                        Sullivan's Travels
                        1941 - Joel McCrea, Veronica Lake. Director Preston Sturgis. ***1/2
                        The Great Sinner
                        1949 Gregory Peck, Ava Gardner. I only made it about 60% through before getting really bored. **
                        If Winter Comes
                        1948 - Walter Pidgeon, Deborah Kerr, Angela Landsbury, Janet Leigh. - ***

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                          spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 21, 2025 12:29 AM)

                          Sullivan's Travels
                          is one of my favorites, PL. It's a joy to watch, brilliantly written and directed by Sturges, with wonderful performances by all the cast. And I love that it dips into the darkness and despair of the Depression to evoke Sullivan's transformation, manifested so beautifully in the the scene in the theatre.
                          I don't think I've seen any of your other films;
                          If Winter Comes
                          , maybe, but I'm not sure. I think I'd probably remember if I had. But
                          Underground
                          sounds like one I should see. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

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                            CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 02:44 AM)

                            The Cat Creature
                            on October 12
                            Carnival of Souls
                            on October 13
                            Dead of Night
                            (1977) on October 14
                            The Night Stalker
                            on October 15
                            Ghost Story
                            , later
                            Circle of Fear
                            , pilot episode (not a movie) on October 16
                            Dark Shadows
                            (2012) on October 17
                            The Canterville Ghost
                            (1975) on October 18

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                              sheetsadam1 — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 02:53 AM)

                              Carnival of Souls is one of my all-time favorites. I should watch it before October ends.
                              Ghost Story with Fred Astaire? That was a very mediocre adaptation of a brilliant novel.
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                                CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 20, 2025 04:20 PM)

                                Carnival of Souls is one of my all-time favorites. I should watch it before October ends.
                                Ghost Story with Fred Astaire? That was a very mediocre adaptation of a brilliant novel.
                                I review every film I watch but I haven't been posting them here as I wasn't exactly welcomed when I joined. In fact, this is the only thread I've been participating in so thanks for answering.
                                No,
                                Ghost Story
                                was a TV series hosted by Sebastian Cabot. About halfway through they changed the title to
                                Circle of Fear
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                                  spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 21, 2025 12:48 AM)

                                  I quite enjoyed
                                  Carnival of Souls
                                  , Cori. I don't know if you know that a lot of it was shot in the (then) small college town of Lawrence, Kansas (home of the University of Kansas). And the rest was shot in Utah. I have connections to both places, so I always enjoy seeing it for that reason alone. And it was made for almost nothing, literally – about $33,000.00, but it's become a cult classic through the years. The director, Harvey Herk, was making industrial and educational films in Lawrence when he decided to put this film together. Kudos to him for being able to do it. It's not a great film, by any means, but it is a very entertaining one.
                                  P.S. Would it be possible for you to put the year of release on all of your titles? It would very helpful to me in particular, if you could. Many thanks.

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                                    CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 22, 2025 01:20 AM)

                                    P.S. Would it be possible for you to put the year of release on all of your titles? It would very helpful to me in particular, if you could. Many thanks.
                                    So far I've only been doing that when I know there is more than one film of the same title but I guess I could.

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                                      spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 22, 2025 12:31 PM)

                                      Thanks so much, Cori. Sometimes there are more films with the same titles than we think there are, and it would help me be able to look them up if the title has a date I could use.

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                                        CoriSCapnSkip — 5 months ago(October 22, 2025 04:28 PM)

                                        If there's a question on which film I meant on any of my previous posts please ask. As I said, I would be happy to post all my film reviews here except for the unwelcome (mild word for it) response when I joined.

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                                          spiderwort — 5 months ago(October 23, 2025 05:01 AM)

                                          I don't remember having a problem before, but I'll let you know if I think of anything. And I hope you'll keep posting. I'll respond when I have something to say based upon my own viewing experience. If I haven't seen the film(s), I may not respond, because I feel I don't have much to contribute. But please know that your posts are appreciated even if I haven't seen the films. So please do keep posting. I appreciate your contributions.

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