So DC has officially decided they can't do a movie without Batman?
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Brother_h — 9 years ago(December 23, 2016 11:11 PM)
It's beent hat way for years, and it really shows that WB producers have no fckin clue what to do with their assets.
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Nizzemancer-1 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 03:30 PM)
They're trying to attract people who only know the big three, the only reason WW isn't used in the same way is because she has the weakest fanbase of the three by a lot.
The top three recognized characters by non-comicbook readers are Batman, Superman and Spider-man in that order, they're milking it because they're in it for the short term gain just like everyone else in business since the last 30 years and don't care that they might exhaust their fanbase with the names.
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Nizzemancer-1 — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 06:16 AM)
Well he's not really a major part, there are some moments but for the most part he seems to just stay in the background of things.
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CichlidAsh — 9 years ago(January 25, 2017 06:15 AM)
Using Batman makes business sense he is the most bankable character DC has, the problem is with them using him in so many projects the market will just end up flooded with the character and it distracts from allowing the other characters to shine.
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carl_johnson-1 — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:13 PM)
Right. Thematically, the film needs a non-magicked person to lend perspective. Like Scully's skepticism did for Mulder and the paranormal X-file events. Having only magicked characters, and adding in WW or Fate as well, might have been an overdose.
Even better, they used not just a non-magicked hero, but a non-powered one as well. More relatable. Coulda been Cyborg, I guess. But Batman's intentional flirtation with "darkness" works better here. -
daviddevilliers54 — 9 years ago(January 27, 2017 01:43 AM)
So what? Some people are not interested in characters they have never heard of. Only if the characters they have heard of and love works with characters they have never heard of, they will want to see more of that character.
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jp3183 — 9 years ago(February 11, 2017 04:23 AM)
Iron Man is from Marvel. If you're referring to the MCU, they have plenty of movies w/o Tony Stark: Thor 1&2, Cap 1&2, Guardians, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, and so on. Not to mention Sony's five Spider-Man films and Fox's X-Men franchise.
More importantly, in the ones where he's present, he was actually critical to the plot w/ the exception of a very quick cameo at the end of The Incredible Hulk. Meanwhile, the cover of this movie has Batman front and center while the writing basically treats him as a sidekick to the magic users. Even Bat-fans would be disappointed by this flick. -
kkathyli — 9 years ago(February 01, 2017 03:14 AM)
I agree that batman is a huge selling point in these movies, but it wasn't like the movie was bad with him in it. He was only a minor supporting character with significantly fewer lines than the rest of the cast, and I thought the few moments he did speak (boo, random grunts after witnessing crazy magic) were pretty hilarious. It was like he was just a passenger in this crazy magic roller coaster.
Plus, he had a somewhat semi-sentimental stake in it. He did witness that lady try to kill her baby and then herself because of the magic brainwashing, so him tagging along isn't entirely ridiculous. -
pufnstuff — 9 years ago(February 09, 2017 07:25 PM)
Forcing is a bit of an exaggeration.
They needed the tie to the JL. Based on that alone, it was either Superman or Batman. And Superman and magic don't mix.
Also, Batman was in the original comic series this was based on.
Someone else said it should have been Doctor Fate A few problems with that.
One, Fate's helmet can be seen on one of Constantine's shelves when he's enchanting the needle to seek out Faust.
Two, Fate, while wearing the helmet of Nabu, is a GOD. There would have been zero drama in the story with him along as he could have simply destroyed Destiny by himself with no need of anyone else's aid.
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