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    Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 01:28 PM)

    When Bruce Wayne first meets Selena Kyle after arriving in Gotham (having escaped the pit).

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      Harold_of_Whoa — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 02:19 PM)

      I have literally no idea what your issue could be on this.
      Here's that scene:
      Very early on in thier conversation, when Bruce says he needs her help, Selina says "After what I did to you?" Batman is who she betrayed, so obviously -
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      • she is acknowledging Bruce is Batman. In no way is she "oblivious of what was revealed to her earlier in the film" as you stated in your OP.
        Her "powerful friend" question is in full recognition of Bruce being Batman. It's not sarcastic, it's just going along with Bruce's approach to the dual identity thing. She is respecting the fact that Batman is more than laundry, and using Bruce's own phrase to do so.
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        Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 03:24 PM)

        I know she knew who he was but the delivery of her line is so unknowing or tongue in cheek (like Catwoman has been throughout the film) that I found it confusing. It's not an issue just an odd delivery.

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          Harold_of_Whoa — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 03:28 PM)

          The title of your thread is "Confused". You're confused that her delivery of the line was odd?
          Again, I think she is just continuing the reference that Bruce began. At this point it's almost like an inside joke, only she's not joking - she's paying respect to the entire idea of Batman.

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            Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 03:41 PM)

            Fair enough.

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              Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 03:42 PM)

              Thanks for posting the link to the scene.

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                Chris-Au — 9 years ago(September 17, 2016 05:46 PM)

                There was nothing confusing about the scene or the delivery. Selina wasn't being sarcastic she was being coy which is perfectly in character.
                http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/chrisau214/Scribbles-Ep04.jpg
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                  Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 02:36 AM)

                  If you can't see that her delivery is dubious/confusing then fine. I watched this film after 3 years and I'm telling you, from my perspective, the 'coy' delivery isn't obvious.
                  Play someone that one line (whose not seen the film or for a good while) and ask them if she implies she knows Wayne is Batman. They'll struggle to give you a definite yes or no answer (I bet they lean more to no).

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                    The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 07:06 AM)

                    I understood it the first time I saw it as did everyone else who was with me.
                    "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                      Chris-Au — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 09:36 AM)

                      Re: Confused
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                      If you can't see that her delivery is dubious/confusing then fine. I watched this film after 3 years and I'm telling you, from my perspective, the 'coy' delivery isn't obvious.
                      It's perfectly obvious and in the four years since the movie was released you are the only person who has ever mentioned the line and this board has been littered with people looking for any tiny thing to nitpick.
                      And yet even the pickers of nits never picked that nit because there is no nit to pick.
                      Play someone that one line (whose not seen the film or for a good while) and ask them if she implies she knows Wayne is Batman. They'll struggle to give you a definite yes or no answer (I bet they lean more to no).
                      Seriously?
                      That line is part of a greater whole. You can't take the line out of context and expect it to be understood. If you are going to do that you can take pretty much any line of any movie and create confusion.
                      http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v109/chrisau214/Scribbles-Ep04.jpg
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                        Pedosh — 9 years ago(September 22, 2016 08:07 AM)

                        This is my favourite superhero film. I'm not criticising the dialogue just making my own observation upon the way in which it has been delivered. I might be in the minority but I'm fine with that.

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                          The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 11:22 AM)

                          Pedosh, Chris and I have had more than our fair share of disagreements but he is 100% right in this case.
                          "I really wish Gia and Claire had became Tanner" - Honeybeefine

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                            theOnlyOutsider — 9 years ago(October 14, 2016 02:11 AM)

                            She probably felt weird addressing a grown man dressed as a batman. Batman. And why would she say tell batman? She was probably teasing slash flirting with him.
                            We have what we seek, it is there all the time, and if we give it time, it will make itself known.

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                              theOnlyOutsider — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 04:27 PM)

                              It's a joke. Dry humor. Asking a billionaire about his "powerful friend." You'd think oh, wouldn't a billionaire be powerful too? Well, no because he's kind of broke.
                              God created war so that Americans would learn geography.
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                                texasbeast-38912 — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 08:16 PM)

                                Selina starts the scene being tough and dismissive of Bruce.
                                Then she turns sarcastic. "Maybe I like it this way."
                                It is when Bruce says that the bomb is going off the next day that she turns serious, and takes him seriously. That is when she then coopts Bruce's lingo regarding Batman being his friend and what-not. In fact, she even says it somewhat pleadingly, as if she hopes Bruce has Batman ready to go. There's no reason to be cold and aloof anymore. Things just got real.

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