http://collider.com/x-men-movies-comics-chris-claremont/
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question7 — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 02:33 PM)
Yeah I saw what the MCU fans were trying to do and it made me laugh the buckets.
Claremont bashes Fox ? not in any lifetime.
Claremont confirmed what we already knew. Disney is trying to bury X-Men to get the rights back so that they can destroy the series with all their dumbed down movies. -
bud-47 — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 02:47 PM)
Marvel isn't doing anything to get the film rights back. If that ever happens, which isn't likely anytime soon, it will be because Fox wants it. Marvel is clearly only acting in their own best interests. The bottom line is that film is where the big money is, not the comic books. Why should Marvel help a rival film studio and provide free advertisement for a property whose films rights they don't even own? It makes no sense from a business perspective. Chris Claremont understands this and is only expressing his disappointment in the situation. He's not really bashing either studio.
But nice try on both sides trying to bend the article to suit their arguments. -
question7 — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 03:12 PM)
Disney promised us that they will not change any aspect of the comics in 2010. But the smart fans of marvel comics knew the truth.
Wasn't it the same Claremont that disney banned three years ago from creating new mutants since it automatically meant the characters are owned by Fox?
Claremont is just saying what we have known for 5 years but the good thing is, he never said disney should get the rights
back for artistic reasons.
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mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(November 06, 2016 07:08 AM)
If Disney threw enough cash at him, he'd do whatever they say. But Disney won't sink that low.
In short, you admit that Disney pays people to say positive things about their product/brand. (Not the first time when you did that.) -
mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 03:45 AM)
I'm admitting Disney doesn't do that. You're the one who seems to think they do.
You said, not only on this post, that certain people who've said bad things about Marvel movies weren't paid enough by Marvel/Disney, thus they have such negative opinion on their brand. Doesn't that automatically implies that you think that they do pay people to say good things about their movies? It's definitely wasn't me who was for months saying stuff like "Bob Layton said bad things about Iron Man 2 and 3 because he didn't receive his paycheck from Marvel." You can try to back off, but you know that you said it. If you say something - you stand by it like a man and you don't make excuses to defend yourself. -
samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 07, 2016 04:37 AM)
You said, not only on this post, that certain people who've said bad things about Marvel movies weren't paid enough by Marvel/Disney, thus they have such negative opinion on their brand.
I was saying they weren't paid at all, because Disney doesn't pay for good reviews. They're sour because they were probably expecting a ton of cash (the way Fox and WB probably would do it) and got nothing.
It's definitely wasn't me who was for months saying stuff like "Bob Layton said bad things about Iron Man 2 and 3 because he didn't receive his paycheck from Marvel."
Again, other studios probably paid for their good word of mouth so these guys were upset when Disney wouldn't play that game and just expect good reviews for being good. Like Dr Strange. -
mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 03:24 AM)
I was saying they weren't paid at all, because Disney doesn't pay for good reviews. They're sour because they were probably expecting a ton of cash (the way Fox and WB probably would do it) and got nothing.
You can't back it off, pal. You just can't. You've said this, so stand by what you said and don't try to turn tables on WB or Fox. You said it clear, multiple times, that Disney pays people to say good things about MCU. Don't act like you didn't do that, because you did. When I said that Bob Layton hated Iron Man 2 and 3, you said: "He probably said that because Marvel didn't pay him enough." That's your very own words. There is no two ways about it. You blatantly admitted that Disney pays people to say good things about their movies.
Again, other studios probably paid for their good word of mouth so these guys were upset when Disney wouldn't play that game and just expect good reviews for being good. Like Dr Strange.
Pal, you look funny with your attempts to escape from your own words. You never specified anything about other studios or anything. You just said, "He probably said that because Marvel didn't pay him enough." There is no explanation to that other than the fact that you DO believe that Marvel would pay someone to say good things about their product. Don't try to justify your own infelicity. -
samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 04:28 AM)
You can't back it off, pal. You just can't.
I'm not, I'm pointing out that I said the opposite of what your accusing me of saying.
You blatantly admitted that Disney pays people to say good things about their movies.
I said that they weren't paying anyone enough, which means they weren't getting paid at all beyond whatever their royalties are.
Pal, you look funny with your attempts to escape from your own words. You never specified anything about other studios or anything. You just said, "He probably said that because Marvel didn't pay him enough."
Which suggests he wasn't getting paid to say good things to begin with. Reading comprehension. -
mh-newressistance — 9 years ago(November 08, 2016 07:35 AM)
I'm not, I'm pointing out that I said the opposite of what your accusing me of saying.
Yes you are. That's what you implied. That's how you presented it. I don't care about your excuses. You owned yourself, pal.
I said that they weren't paying anyone enough, which means they weren't getting paid at all beyond whatever their royalties are.
No, you said they weren't paid enough by MARVEL. Those are your very own words. Don't deny it.
Which suggests he wasn't getting paid to say good things to begin with. Reading comprehension.
I'm not just talking about this topic. I'm talking about every topic in which you brought it up. As I mentioned, when I said that Bob Layton hated Iron Man sequels, you said, don't deny it, that he just didn't received his paycheck from Disney. Those are your words. My reading comprehension is not the problem. It's just your logic (or lack of thereof) sometimes makes fool out of you. -
samhmd-7489 — 9 years ago(November 09, 2016 05:03 AM)
Yes you are. That's what you implied.
Then you misunderstood.
No, you said they weren't paid enough by MARVEL.
Which means they weren't paid by Marvel outside of whatever Royalties they get. Easy.
I'm not just talking about this topic. I'm talking about every topic in which you brought it up. As I mentioned, when I said that Bob Layton hated Iron Man sequels, you said, don't deny it, that he just didn't received his paycheck from Disney.
Which means he wasn't paid by them, easy. If they'd done what FOX did and throw a ton of cash like they did with Claremont he wouldn't say anything bad. But Disney doesn't bribe, so he's upset. -
That_Guy_Son — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 03:02 PM)
So I think the Disney corporate publishing attitude is: why would we go out of our way to promote a title that will benefit a rival corporations X-Men films when we could take that same energy and enthusiasm and focus and do it for our own properties?
This isn't anything new. In fact, they've actually said that's what they are doing.
"Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth." -
That_Guy_Son — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 03:09 PM)
The funny thing about this is that Marvel wasn't promoting any of those books/characters before they could make movies of them. Only when the only movies they were making was X-men and Spider-man, no one had a problem with them promoting only X-men and Spider-man. Now that Marvel is saying, "Why don't we promote these other hundred comic series we have?" people are going nuts because X-men aren't getting top attention.
You guys are like some whiny little kids that want all the attention while other kids are ignored.
Inhumans can't replace X-men because the series are nothing a like.
"Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth."