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    bicuhang — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 09:59 AM)

    Mack is the pragmatic voice is the team, who is distrustful and wary of anything unnatural.
    It's why Coulson put Mack in charge of alien artifacts and other weirdness, because he's far less likely to try to use any of the stuff, and will make sure no one else does either.
    He's the sound reasoning behind the team. He's always going to be the one who's distrustful of something new, especially if it's not following the normal natural route.
    I'm glad to see he's find someone, like Yo-yo, who sees things similarly.

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      psychozealot — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 08:10 AM)

      that way of thinking is not actally sound nor pragmatic

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        bicuhang — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 11:06 AM)

        Actually it is.
        Say there's a magic alien box with a button and that people tell you if you push it, gives wondrous gifts. Most people are eventually going want to push it, even without solid proof that it's safe. They'll say, well, we'll never know if we don't try it.
        Mack's going to say, no way, and make it's locked away safely, till it can be verified, and even then, he's going to be wary of it.
        Sound and pragmatic.

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          psychozealot — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 11:18 AM)

          nope, sound and pragmatic is to do x-ray scans, heat scans and well, actually if you live in a world with actual magic like the marvel universe, rely on that magic to do magical scans, which might be done via magical items or by recruiting a magic using being who has earnt your trust. he is just bigoted and the only reason he did not want to kill Daisy was because he knew her before she became an inhuman and that has prevented him from being bigoted against inhumans.

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            bicuhang — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 02:36 PM)

            Nope, sound and pragmatic is a voice of caution and concern and wariness when others are jumping to try something when they haven't considered possible bad outcomes.
            Bigoted is what Yo-yo's friends and Senator Nadeer are.
            Not Mack.
            But I understand that you feel different.
            We'll have to agree to disagree.

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              psychozealot — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 09:51 PM)

              which of Yo-Yo's friends? ah, from tht scene in the party. He is more than merely cautious, concerned and wary, he is outright adverse. Pragmatic implies putting things to use for the benefit they cause and only inasmuch they cause benefit, it aint pragmatic to deny every attempt at something new. If he considered possibly bad outcomes you might say he is being sound, but he goes directly to a single bad outcome and only 'cause the movies say so. FICTIONAL MOVIES. FICTIONAL TO THEM (Not just to us). If he used actual studies and registers it would be justified, but he uses other people's nightmares.

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                bicuhang — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 04:48 AM)

                This particular episode, yes, he referenced movies.
                Most of the time he doesn't. He uses his experience.
                Look, it's obvious we don't see the same on this. You think Mack is bigoted. I don't.
                And I don't see either of us changing our minds.
                We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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                  KthulhuX — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 11:56 AM)

                  That's not pragmatic, that's the death of progress. If everyone thought like that, we wouldn't have fire or tools.

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                    bicuhang — 9 years ago(January 14, 2017 02:35 PM)

                    If everyone, perhaps.
                    But one in the group, excellent.
                    Which is why he's there.

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                      JJett131313 — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 11:22 AM)

                      Mac irritates the F out of me. last night he was really unbearable not to mention most of the dialogue he had was cringe-inducing.

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                        koosvanwinden — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 12:50 PM)

                        He is seriously damaged by all those evil robot movies. He can even dream them

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                          peter-rushkin — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 03:03 PM)

                          Blacks
                          Trannys
                          Gays
                          Muslims
                          Anything that the liberals stand for.
                          Oh he totally hates white people.
                          Are you an SJW ? If so, please kill yourself immediately! Thanks

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                            ayanami-chan — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 04:49 PM)

                            Also aliens in general, and I think the list goes on.
                            One of my many problems with Mack; there's nothing wrong with someone being the voice of reason on occasion, but I watch this kind of show specifically
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                            it has aliens, inhumans, powered people, weird stuff, etc. I don't want to listen to a character bitch and whine about "this is bad" and "I bet they're evil" or "I don't trust this" and so on every time something/someone cool turns up on screen.
                            I think it got old real fast and after two and a half years I really wonder why he hasn't gotten a different job yet.
                            "We're a team, Garrus. There's no Shepard without Vakarian."

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                              fctiger — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 05:20 PM)

                              Yes he's bigoted about things that showed up on the planet to try and kill us. I think thats kind of a natural reaction. It would be one thing if the first aliens showed up to make peace and give us all free internet for life but that didn't happen. And before Aida the only robot they ever saw was Ultron, who once again tried to take over the world by killing a mass of people.
                              I get what people are saying but its a weird notion that people on planet Earth wouldn't be suspicious as hell of things that they don't understand, ever been in the same room with and tried to kill us. Ask yourself why so many are bigoted against Muslims today? Is it because they just hate Islam or is the fact factions of it has spent decades now bombing innocent people worldwide? I'm sure for some it is the former, the majority its clearly the latter. And I don't support that by the way but I clearly understand why the bigotry and fear is in place just the same. And these are just other humans beings. There is nothing special/superior about them.
                              But aliens and androids are on another level. Its not like the guy was born hating them, but he works at a job where he's constantly defending his life against them so can you blame him?
                              Its just a reaction MOST people would have. I know people who are bigoted against gay people and they haven't tried to murder anyone. Thats the world we live in. Imagine if the Androids were killers AND gay. Oh lawdy!

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                                nikkiask — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 05:28 PM)

                                Maybe Hope or whatever name was on that piece of paper

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                                  Geek_XX — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 11:26 AM)

                                  It's not bigotry, it's awareness.
                                  He's just the voice of reason and telling the team not to be so trusting so quickly.

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                                    psychozealot — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 11:36 AM)

                                    does he ever trusts? one thing is not to trust quickly, but he goes to the other end and distrusts immediately

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                                      Geek_XX — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 11:47 AM)

                                      True. But to be fair, a lot of weird things has happened before his eyes so I think he has a good reason to be cautious.

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                                        psychozealot — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 12:07 PM)

                                        one thing is being cautious, but he spews immediate words of hate, like what he says 'bout robots.

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                                          Geek_XX — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 12:08 PM)

                                          Yah that's true too.
                                          There's always someone in a company like that.

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