Who's stronger Spider-Man or Luke cage?
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rayonmullings — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 12:29 AM)
My only frustration so far with the DCEU Superman isn't a complaint but a very strong desire/anticipation to see him become aware of all he's truly capable of, and not be afraid to use his abilities to their fullest. This will only happen once he's fully embraced his Alien Nature and truly explores all of his powers & their true extent with the same joy & relish we saw in him during his first flight in the middle of "Man of Steel".
At this point, his main struggle is the need for a genuine reconciliation between his Human Upbringing and his Alien Nature & Heritage.
nope, its all bad writing, cause they don't know how to make it come off believable, so they make him do dumb stuff after dumb stuff.superman is always smart in his comics, and one of the best thing about superman and lex, is that he always manage to beat lex using his mind not his fist. However, whenever batman shows up, superman immediately become stupid, so that batman can look good. Its like how they ugly up beautiful woman, to make a star look better, only because they want to emphasize that person, and not become comparatively they are more beautiful than the other.
let me ask you a question. If you have all of superman abilities, can you see batman beating you up?
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quantumwav5 — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 01:53 AM)
My last reply to you, kid: you're letting your frustrations and negative emotions spoil lots of good stuff that your own hate & anger blind you towards. Lazy writing? More like a lazy audience navel gazing at their own expectations, thus blinding them to what's actually there (well, in the UE anyway).
And this isn't about the very appropriate frustrations you have with the very real effort DC has made in the last 25 years to lift Batman up by pushing Superman down, making him far less intelligent than he has been, most notably his Pre-Crisis version.
It's about how ppl like you see these kinds of things thru the red in your eyes (your mindless rage rings out as clear as a bell, buddy-boy), making any understanding of what you're actually seeing impossible. Because all you choose to feel is to see what you aren't seeing to the exclusion of anything else.
If you have all of superman abilities, can you see batman beating you up?
First, as I said in my previous post, DCEU Superman neither has or is aware of the full breadth & extent of his powers. Second, if I had no idea Kryptonite existed or what it was, I could easily see myself be taken down by a master strategist like Batman, especially one fueled by rage and embittered anger from a harrowing, painful & personally costly 20+ year career, pushed over the edge by the events of The Kryptonian Invasion and then made even worse thru Lex's insidious, devious 2 year long manipulation of Wallace Keef and himself. Add to that Bruce's discovery of Lex's shipment of a large cache of Kryptonite from the Indian Ocean and you have the recipe for Batman's very possible take down of a Superman who doesn't even want to fight him and is forced to do so by a delusional & very scary, dangerous son of Lex Luthor who's actually giddy about kidnapping and threatening to murder/burn a 60+ year old mother. So yeah, I can see it and I've read & own about 95% of every Superman comic ever published (either physical or digital).
All that said, I DO AGREE with you that, under normal circumstances, with a self-possessed Superman aware of all he can do with a few years experience under his belt, would be very, very hard for Batman to do much against, Kryptonite be damned! (One way or another, he'd be ready for it).
And I know we'll be seeing that kind of Superman one day in live action film and TV. I'm patient that way and I have faith that it's only a matter of time. In the meantime, I also see how awesome what they're doing is now and I'm loving it.
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rayonmullings — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 05:08 AM)
dagw, you're blowing yourself off, and too impress with you. this superman beat zod and three other kryptonians that was genetically design by science thousands of years ahead of us to be soldiers, so don't tell me about batman 20 years of fighting ability.
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quantumwav5 — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 12:25 PM)
UH huh. Right, sure, whatever.
I concede to your right to be ignorant. Like how Kryptonians are genetically designed to be soldiers. So what? Batman is the epitome of a trained soldier and much more.
The whole point of Batman's quest in BvS is to acquire the only weapon capable of helping someone defeat a Kryptonian: Kryptonite. And he uses it against a very young (2 year old) Superman who doesn't even know Kryptonite exists yet. IN that scenario, equipped with a Kryptonite spear and a clear, smart strategy, it is absolutely possible for Batman to subdue Superman.
But continue being blind to what's obvious (however it upsets you and how much you wish Superman was presented differently) and enjoy that fun ride of hatred & ignorance. And I didn't say anything about Batman's "20 years of fighting ability", I said:
I could easily see myself be taken down by a master strategist like Batman, especially one fueled by rage and embittered anger from a harrowing, painful & personally costly 20+ year career, pushed over the edge by the events of The Kryptonian Invasion and then made even worse thru Lex's insidious, devious 2 year long manipulation of Wallace Keef and himself.
Learn to read & understand a little bit. You might find it useful.
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Brother_h — 9 years ago(October 08, 2016 09:57 PM)
Spider-man is massively above Luke Cage in strength, but Spider-man is no where near as durable.
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lukecage92 — 9 years ago(October 09, 2016 08:04 AM)
Well if it is in the comics, I remembered getting the Marvel Handbook when I was younger and comparing strength classes. Spider-man was a Class 25 while Cage was a Class 30. Now it could change since their strength level has been inconsistent the past ten years depending on the writer.
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slickr12345 — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 06:36 AM)
Spider man has increased strength to the point of several man, but he is not bulletproof, he can't really lift heavy objects on his own, he can't punch through walls, etc
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king_of_bob — 9 years ago(October 11, 2016 07:33 PM)
They're equal in terms of physical strength. Luke is much more durable, but Spider-man is smarter and faster.
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