Sorry if this is sexist
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djseizurefacebook — 9 years ago(August 10, 2016 01:09 AM)
Loved it. Was better than her comic book counter part. Her backstory was that she tried the super hero gig but didn't work out for her. Future is that she is going to be in the Defenders even tho she was never in the Defenders in the comics but she was part of Avengers. Honestly what got me was that I got to see Jessica Jones pop out from the comics to the screen.
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TheSteve239 — 9 years ago(August 10, 2016 07:21 PM)
Thanks for the responses, I finished the series a couple days ago. I enjoyed it quite a bit, way more than I thought I would. Ritter was actually really good in it, Kilgrave cracked me up, although evil, the things he made people do were very funny to me, like when he got annoyed by the one guy and told him to go across the street and stare at the fence forever. I was glad to see Luke cage was in it a bunch and like when him and Jones teamed up. I'm glad I watched it
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moi_craxy — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 02:32 AM)
toxic masculinity ? WHAT !
There is no such thing ! the villains were beep who had mental issues they do not represent men !
Just because a series tackles an issue faced by women doesn't mean only women can watch it ! men should know about these issues too
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andrewrrrr — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 06:37 AM)
Toxic masculinity is when men get socialized into negative behaviour that society describes as "masculine" like being aggressive and violent and entitled, it doesn't describe all men of course but unfortunately it describes some men who women commonly run into and interact with.
It's been a while since I've seen it but the way I remember it, the main villain was a rapist who kept telling women to "smile" and the secondary villain was a jerk who kept talking over her and diminishing her ideas and "mansplaining" to her. They were written to be villains that women would relate to. I guess female stalkers and creeps exist but honestly they're pretty unheard of, women don't typically do these sort of entitled and domineering behaviours to men and men don't typically deal with women like that and if they did, it wouldn't feel threatening. -
liv911 — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:52 AM)
Toxic masculinity is when men get socialized into negative behaviour that society describes as "masculine" like
being aggressive and violent and entitled
hahahhahaha lol, agressive, violent and entitled are basically every villain. Kinda unrealistic to have expectations that the villains won't posess those qualities and i wouldn't say that's toxic masculinty
stalkers and creep are not unheard of btw, (everyone knows a rapevictim, no one knows a rapist right?) i think all women get sexually harrassed at one point or another in their lives based on my own experience and my friends experiences and we're not even 20 yet.
edit: sorry didn't see you had writted female stalkers and creeps as in girl stalkers, i thought you said stalkers and creeps who harrass girls. But yeah my point is basically, that just becuase this a show about a girl that has been a victim to something that almost only girls experience, doesn't mean it's geared towards girls. That would be like saying the godfather is geared towards people in the maffia and lord of the rings is geared towards hobbits.
Honestly it's weird you don't see "toxic masculinity" portrayed in every movie cause it's certainly a part of every woman's day to day
waitright it's because the filmindustry is a boysclub with a bunch of men who hire their friends. Films typically never show women's day to day, instead they show men's stories.
It's sad cause film is a way to share stories and broaden peoples understanding of one another. When all the people who get to "create" are men, of course boys growing up watching those stories aren't going to understand women the same way they have an understanding of men (because the male perspective is always shared more) . I wouldn't call the villains in this "typical toxic masculinity characters" they're just beep phsycopath beep But even if they were, would that be such a bad thing? by getting that on screen more people may finally understand the type of behaviours that a patriarchy creates. -
derrick-beaumont — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 12:20 PM)
But yeah my point is basically, that just becuase this a show about a girl that has been a victim to something that almost only girls experience, doesn't mean it's geared towards girls. That would be like saying the godfather is geared towards people in the maffia and lord of the rings is geared towards hobbits.
Slow clap well said my friend, well said.
It would make more sense that if you had a female perspective of an issue that you would want to share/express it with males. As telling it to people who already understand it (females) would be a waste of time even thinking of it as a "message".
Who wants to spend time and resources teaching people things they already know?
This show is geared towards men. It's just some women have jumped onto it as it appeals to their "victimhood" nature and therefore makes it feel "real" to them.
But then I guess most women seem to ignore the abusive women in the show as their focus is Jessica being a victim rather than the entire show.- Woman trained to prevent victimhood and even fights a man on the same level (performance enhancing drugs) and wins (Trish Patsy Walker)
- Controlling female abuser (Jeri Hogarth)
- Abusive mother (Dorothy Walker)
Vs the point of one abusive guy? Clearly this was to teach men about women of different types and how even if you didn't realise, there is a chance you could have raped someone unknowingly (Mainly those situations with bold men and indecisive/feeling pressured women).
But the most impactful moment of this show really was when Kilgrave uses his ability on the nosy neighbour. In that moment despite everything Jessica Jones lets down her guard and really shows you how confusing women can appear to be.
And I know it's not like she wanted to sleep with Kilgrave or anything but it was a sincere moment of understanding she felt with her rapist. And following that she even tried to make him "good".
I think this is more for men to understand how fickle women can be (even towards their rapist) and understanding the different types of women out there (Victim/fighter/abuser/controller).
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anythingbutthatoldone — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 05:25 PM)
Myself personally, I have no affection for superhero movies. I think they're retarded concepts created by weak people to substitute for them being weak-assed losers their whole life. But my kids like them, so of course I suffer through them. The Avengers movie was entertaining, and this series kind of picks up a short time after the events in that movie. I could be mistaken, no one cares really It's kind of interesting to see how quasi-normal people would respond to all of these "perfect" superhero assclowns tearing up their world. IMO not enough attention was spent on it.
To sum up, It's a different perspective. I wouldn't buy a ticket to see it, but I'll watch it on Netflix. Til I stop paying them, lol. -
anythingbutthatoldone — 9 years ago(September 18, 2016 05:41 PM)
Myself personally, I have no affection for superhero movies. I think they're retarded concepts created by weak people to substitute for them being weak-assed losers their whole life. But my kids like them, so of course I suffer through them. The Avengers movie was entertaining, and this series kind of picks up a short time after the events in that movie. I could be mistaken, no one cares really It's kind of interesting to see how quasi-normal people would respond to all of these "perfect" superhero assclowns tearing up their world. IMO not enough attention was spent on it.
To sum up, It's a different perspective. I wouldn't buy a ticket to see it, but I'll watch it on Netflix. Til I stop paying them, lol.
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A_Llama_Drama — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 02:20 AM)
It's a very slow burner. Unlike Luke Cage which started quite slow but then kept up a fast pace, Jessica remains slow besides three episodes towards the end. This allows for a lot of drama and introspection. One of the show's strengths is its very different style. It also proves to be what has kept it from entertaining more people.
Personally, I loved it. I like that Kilgrave's powers are hinted at and talked about yet what we see of him is quite mischievous until eventually the horror of his power is displayed. I like that Jessica is unable to deal with him or the people around her due to the fact that she was used, repeatedly, by him. This is a complicated show and Jessica is often not a hero.
People complain about her powers but I think it makes sense. She's strong but she's not tough. Unlike Luke, she hurts. Her fight scenes are usually her just throwing people around because she doesn't want to hurt people and she's not a trained fighter. I also think this is one of the show's strengths. Daredevil has these awesome, sometimes numbing scenes of violence and action whereas Jessica's scenes are very minimal. That means when they get to the violence and action towards the end, I found it far more exciting.
However, someone will quite likely be along to say I'm wrong.
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robertblakenyc — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 04:02 AM)
One of the show's strengths is its very different style.
Bingo!
It should be clear to everyone at this point that these series are
designed
to operate in totally different spaces with wildly different tones and styles.
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TheFatDruidofNacyl — 9 years ago(October 13, 2016 02:18 PM)
Out of all the Marvel TV/Netflix shows out there I'd put this on the bottom but overall enjoy it.
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