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centrd — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 10:53 PM)
people saying that this is "Lucifer's true face".
I just posted that quote where Joe Henderson says that Amenadiel and Lucifer are in their original forms, so how can this red face be Lucifer's "true" anything?
I just assumed it was a projection he used to scare people. But with this reveal today, it looked like he was really showing Linda himself.
If this is true, then, of course, it's another giant deviation from canon with no explanation. Rationalizing that he was "burned" during his fall to hell, makes no sense whatsoever. He's immortal and heals. And angelic beings can travel between planes no problem, i.e. Amenadiel traveling to hell. I'm confused.
Don't get me wrong, I still love the show, I just wish they'd be more careful with these small details and stop with all the contradictions. Avid fans pay very close attention to these kinds of details in tv shows. Things need to add up and be consistent or fans stress.
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barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:11 PM)
I believe Lucifer referred to it as his "nastier side" when he revealed it to Malcom. Perhaps as with all people, there are many who are two-faced, his is just more literal than most. I think of it as part of his powers that he used in hell. It's as much of who he is as is his normal face. Hopefully Linda will come around as he really needs her help.
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:39 PM)
I totally hope you're right. A "nastier side" I can deal with. Something he created for the job. But even Fox was tweeting tonight that this was "Lucifer's true face". Gahthey need to get their stories straight! As far as I'm concerned, this will never be Lucifer's "true self". Lucifer is The Light Bringer, the most beautiful of all of God's angels. Period.
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Mallylol — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:36 PM)
I would think that in hell, beings take on a different form or god changes them to a different form that they keep. Lucifer still has his powers, so i am guessing him and maze are able to "shapeshift". Lucifer goes changes to his old self. Lilith is stripped of her powers, therefore she had to take on a new form or else she would look like a demon. That's just my two cent.
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centrd — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 12:09 AM)
In the comic, Maze's face was "healed" by a good-intentioned person, even though it pissed her off. She didn't want to be healed. In the end, Lucifer gives her back her original face, the half beautiful, half distorted demon face she was born with. He says that is how he met her and it is how she'll always be most beautiful to him. Lesley-Ann Brandt, who really knows her comic counterpart, confirmed that the tv Maze is shown in her "healed" version, because when her face is in its normal state, her speech is garbled and hard to understand. That wouldn't work on the show the way it worked in the comic. Although to be honest, it was very difficult to understand her in the comic, too. Neil Gaiman created her speech by holding half of his mouth shut while speaking, and then wrote those sounds down.
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LithMaethor — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 12:12 AM)
In the current Lucifer comic (Volume 2), Maze kept the clear speech her healed face affords her. She said something like "It's nice to be actually understood by others."
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LithMaethor — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:39 PM)
Hopefully it's just how he sees himself at that moment, but usually a face he puts on while playing head torturer in hell.
Cause if that truly is his real form, it's both a huge deviation from the source material, and - more importantly - quite underwhelming.
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LithMaethor — 9 years ago(October 31, 2016 11:56 PM)
It also served as a quick way to show her he is actually who he said he was.
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dani984 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 04:46 AM)
This!
We all know that his true form is that of an angel with white wings, but since he cut them of, this was really the most effective way to show her that all that he told her was not just a metaphore and for her to really see the gravity of the situation. He told her he is the devil and now he showed her that he is the devil.
But now that Linda knows the truth, she should really think about their sessions and what he said. He said that he is not trully evil, that running hell is just his job, and that he punishes the guilty. So once she really thinks about all of that, I think that she will not be afraid of him, and that their relationship will get a whole new meaning.
Any way, I'm glad that finally at least on of the main human cast members knows the truth, and I think that will make the show even more interesting.
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scarlet8 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 12:50 PM)
Hopefully it's just how he sees himself at that moment, but usually a face he puts on while playing head torturer in hell.
I could see them using this as the explanation.
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Tantrums — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 05:08 AM)
No, I think it's not his "true" face in the meaning of "original" face.
It's the face he has as being the devil / showing his "nastier side".
(Btw, it's not the 1st time that comments from a network on their own show are not 100 percent correct.)
I've also read the comics and love them but I really do not expect that anything else of that canon must be fundamental for the show, the writers simply can use something of or get some ideas from it. So now they've brought Maze's "original" face, and I totally loved that they did it. But I'm absolutely ok with all the changes they made from the comics, may it be "who was born 1st", "Mother of all creation" or Lucifer's "true face". Because it works for the storylines of the show and there are no bigger inconsistencies within, imo.
