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    readerf61 — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 05:08 PM)

    That was weird! I got a notice for my own post!
    There used to be a "Dutch store" about an hour's drive from here, and he sold all the wonderful things my husband can't find in the US. They owner was even a baker, and at New Year's he would make oliebollen. Amazon pretty much put him out of business, but also he was getting old and his kids didn't want to run the store. Hubby misses his big chocolate initial for Sinterklaas and some pickles and herring, but he goes home often enough to get most things occasionally.


    No, David. No one is happy in a poodle skirt and a sweater set.

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      centrd — 9 years ago(November 02, 2016 06:24 PM)

      Well, at least now I know I wasn't losing my mind. I was seriously confused about why you were asking me about Dutch pastries. 🙂
      It's tough when you move to new regions (I know, I've done it a lot), and the things that were your favorites are no longer available. Especially these days when there are so few mom & pop or specialty shops left. In California anyway, they've all been pushed out for national chains so there's very little variety anymore.
      I'm glad he gets to go home for the things that are special to him. 🙂
      "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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        Melopsittacus_undulatus — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 09:32 AM)

        Not to mention all the speculaas and pepernoten this time of year! Thinking about all the tasty Dutch food, I wonder if I ever could get used to not having them.
        I don't think I would survive without my chocolade vlokken on my bread.

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          centrd — 9 years ago(November 03, 2016 10:12 AM)

          Try craving something from your childhood home when you're pregnant! It's the worst. Your body and mind just keep screaming at you that you HAVE to have it.
          My poor hubby drove all over the tiny state of Delaware and into the state of Pennsylvania looking for my craving. My first pregnancy was really strange. For some weird reason, I had all-day-long morning sickness for months. And the only thing I could eat was pineapple(!?) and then after Thanksgiving, mashed potatoes. So I had this extremely limited diet when I got this out-of-nowhere craving for a Dairy Queen burger with this special sauce that I hadn't had since I was a kid living on the west coast. So my husband went to every Dairy Queen he could find and none of them sold anything but ice cream. I thought I was going to die. For about 7 months. The last couple of months I was no longer sick but started craving champagne (again, wtf?). At least that was easily available and I was planning to drink some in the hospital to celebrate the birth. But as soon as I had the baby, the craving was gone. lol. And the really weird thing is, my firstborn hates pineapple! I swear, human pregnancy has to be the weirdest reproductive process that has ever evolved.
          So anyway, I REALLY can relate to craving something you remember that's just not available. 🙂
          "Beauty chains me to the earthThe heavens are not a place for human souls."

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            LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 09:19 AM)

            I don't understand.

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              tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 09:42 AM)

              If you invest in a stock for 100.00 with the expectation of making 500.00 but you only make 350.00, you made money but lost of your projections.
              Easy enough.

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                justanicknamed — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 09:52 AM)

                That would be a valid point, if this wasn't Hollywierd we were talking about. They don't view profits the same way the rest of the world does.

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                  LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:28 AM)

                  tHAt doesn't make sense either, by this logic a movie needs to make 70 times their budget to be profitable.

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                    justanicknamed — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:35 AM)

                    I didn't say it made sense. I remember reading somewhere that Hollywood has like 33 different ways in which they can account for a movie's loss or gain. It is why they were able to only pay the author of Forrest Gump something like $50k. They were supposed to pay a % of the net profits, so they put ALL of the costs of the film, advertising, VHS and such against the money the movie earned, and were able to claim it didn't make any money.

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                      tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:58 AM)

                      Where did THAT come from? They do analysis of any project that comes through the door before deciding to make it. Some movies they know they'll spend 100 million on and know full well they'll make 200 million and for whatever reason they decide that's acceptable for the project. On other projects, they see a much bigger payday. Say, movies with big names attached (A Tom Hanks or in his heyday, a Harrison Ford) or movies that adapt a popular property (the Harry Potter novels as an example). Movies that are part of a franchise with earmarks of being huge are considered "cash cows". And that determines how much of a budget you're willing to throw into it. It's a projected return on investment. Do you think Disney was surprised how much Star Wars TFA made? No, they had it mapped out. Maybe it did less, equaled or exceeded those projections but those projections were there.

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                        OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:20 AM)

                        You're forgetting the gross is before they do the splits with the theaters that show the films.
                        Not to mention transformers films make a lot of money but they still suck.

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                          tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 10:59 AM)

                          No, notheaters are charities, remember?

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                            LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:22 AM)

                            They seem like it, because according to your logic, only 1% of movies, the 700 million box office range, make any money.

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                              OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:28 AM)

                              That completely depends on their production budget.
                              If Movie "A" cost $100m to make, Grosses $700m, has to split the gross with theaters 50/50, it's made $300m.
                              If Movie "B" takes $250m to make, Grosses $700m, has to split the gross with theaters 50/50, it's made $225m.
                              That's not even taking advertising into account.

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                                LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:35 AM)

                                doesn't make any sense to me at all, what stops them from making their own theaters and getting 100% of the profit?

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                                  tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:43 AM)

                                  Okay, let's look at that.
                                  Let's say Warner Brothers makes their own theaters. Now, they need to make enough theaters in enough markets to distribute the film, right? BvS opening in 4,242 theaters. Let's assume that's screens and not physical buildings and cut that number in half to compensate for multiplexes that played it on more than one screen. 2121 theaters.
                                  Now, guess what? Theaters usually lease the land they put theaters on and have to pay rent. And utilities. And unions. And non-union workers. And they then have to shell out money for maintenance services, concessionsall the things in a theater. So, aside from the extraordinary initial expenses of WB building these theaters, they'd still NEVER get 100% of the gross.

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                                    LetThemEatCake01 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:55 AM)

                                    Then why make movies, by your statements, the numbers simply don't add up, and that's just for commercial cinema, let's not even go into dramatic films, by your logic none of them are profitable.

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                                      OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 12:01 PM)

                                      Again, it all depends on the budget. most dramatic films aren't cgi loaded messes that take a ton to produce.
                                      It's not "MY" logic, it's how they figure profits/losses on films.
                                      Also keep in mind they can churn out something for $100m and have it turn around and break $1b and then it's yachts for everyone. when they dump a truckload of cash into a CGI heavy tentpole film and it barely breaks even, that's a dud.
                                      But this is why the dceu is churning out duds and no, not making "thrice their budget"

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                                        OdumC — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:44 AM)

                                        To what? just show their own studios films? if that were the case theaters would be spaced apart like gas stations. and where do the smaller studios show their films? What happens if a studio has a bad year? do their theaters shut down or just stand empty taking huge losses all year?
                                        Should they all get independant streaming video services too?

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                                          tjlamb0518 — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 11:47 AM)

                                          Remember when WB thought opening their own retail stores was the way to sell their merchandise?

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