Just NO.
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Banjo_oz — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 10:26 AM)
Absolutely agree.
In fact, this is the one thing the show has done that I REALLY don't like. Not just because, yes, it is really creepy and "off" given that whatever explanation they give, she is still a child in an adult body seducing men, but because this ruins the slow buildup they clearly had planned for Ivy in season one.
As said, they could have hired an older, "hot" teen to play her and let her age with Selina and Bruce. Heck, she could be a love triangle character between those two, or just stay as Selina's creepy friend who is going increasingly towards "the dark side" while Selina walks the thin line of morality. They cast Ivy the way they did for an obvious reason: to transform someone who wasn't naturally born with the tools of a sultry seductress into someone who became one through knowledge and willpower, starting with living with Barbara and Increasing as she learned how to manipulate men, until manifesting her plant-based powers later.
Instead it seems they got bored playing the long game, but than now screws up any chance of Ivy/Bruce dynamics.
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sfmar — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 12:02 PM)
Exactly Banjo, exactly.
The original Ivy was a good character because she was a relative peer to Selina, so they could confide in each other and understand each other's feelings and motivations.
Now, Selina is essentially alone, except for Bruce, and Ivy's been transformed into yet another adult fem-fatale - why? We already have Barbara and Tabitha as villains (and sometimes Fish). Ivy was fine as she was, someone you could feel a degree of sympathy for - now I don't even like her. -
Pumpyjones — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 01:33 PM)
^^THIS exactly! They squandered so much potential. They also could've brought in Harley at some point for a few episodes and it would've been cool to see Ivy (and the others) interact with her, pre-insanity.
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watcher101 — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 12:28 PM)
I don't have a problem with homosexuality, but the Ivy being a child that suddenly becomes an adult is rather creepy. Even in the real world, some kids develop much faster than others and can appear to be much older than they are, but they're still kids, and its still pedophillia/underage sex.
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Pumpyjones — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 02:45 PM)
If being uncomfortable with the show aging up a child into an adult body and then writing her having sex with middle age men while STILL being mentally a child makes me an SJW then I guess put me on your blacklist. I assumed being against pedophilia was like, normal human decency type stuff, but I guess I'm an activist for being creeped out by it?
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vladdx — 9 years ago(October 24, 2016 02:58 PM)
I'm not the type to block people, sorry. Also, there's no pedophilia involved here with the actress playing older Ivy clearly being a grown woman. If they had the younger actress doing those scenes I might've agreed with it, and even in that case it still would've been interesting as a case study.