That's where we're headed here right?
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MisterCard — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 05:30 AM)
Personally I'd rather they not make them gay. But if they go this route I'd rather that it be just Ed who is gay. I think it could create a good storyline if Ed becomes obsessed with Oswalt. I also like the idea of Oswalt not reciprocating those feelings and it creating tension between them.
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ScaryMary123 — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 07:29 AM)
Ed was obsessed with Miss Kringle, or whatever her name wasso, I doubt he's gay. If anything, there seems to be a set-up that Penguin could be gay, what with the mother issues (a cliche, I realize). In the classic comics, neither character was even hinted at as being gay. That was verboten. The closest a comic book villain came to being gay in the 70s was the Joker, but in the Killing Joke, it was made clear he was straightand a father to be.
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Shred_Master — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 10:33 AM)
Well the moment when they were in the room and then held each other seemed very gay. The looks on their faces didn't help. However, I think it is just an alliance. They are the "best of friends" for now, until one of them does the other one in, which is inevitable.
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Pumpyjones — 9 years ago(October 18, 2016 02:07 PM)
They've been wearing each other's pajamas and robesI seriously can't believe that some people on here cannot see the writing on the wall at this point LOL. Like, they're def going to hook up.
People are such babies if they can't handle one kiss between guys. It's not like these two are going to be dry humping against a wall in an 8pm show. Jim Gordon doesn't even get to get his freak on. It's going to be a tongue free kiss and everything else is going to be just as gay as is was on the episode last night - gazing into each other's eyes, etc. it couldn't possibly get gayer! -
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Chozens_Thrown_Shirt — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 06:08 PM)
It really is a non-factor if Penguin ( or Riddler ) is gay or not. Robin Lord Taylor himself is an homosexual and it doesn't really matter. if anything, I welcome the additional layer to the character Gotham is non-canon anyway.
My take on this is : while Penguin
might
be gay, he's way more emotionally attached to whoever might even care for him. His relationships with his mother, his father, Fish, Butch..every one of them eventually went awry. Either it ended up in tragedy or Penguin ended up betrayed. Riddler is just another person that would give him the slightest of attention for him to hang on.
Riddler is definitely not gay ( the Mrs. Kringle story ) and he's obviously using Penguin for all he's worth in order to pursue his goals, and he will eventually be just another one to stab Penguin in the back. This might be the breaking point for Penguin where he'll stop trying to be "Mommy's Little Boy" and he's going to go all-villain in Gotham, since nobody is worth saving anyway.
The fact that Penguin suddenly ended up mayor overnight is way more stupid as a plot development.
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jakeconhale — 9 years ago(October 21, 2016 10:14 AM)
I doubt it.
Penguin is pretty much asexual, we've never seen him express any interest and the only time it was presented he recoiled (thought that could have been because it was his stepsister). He has that grin when he talks to Jim, but that, to me, comes off as "Thank you for saving my life, we're good friends now and I hope you feel the same way."
Nygma is inserting himself as a surrogate parent figure so as to manipulate Penguin and become the power behind the throne. He has no other support structure, he doesn't have any other underworld contacts so he's going exploit this as much as possible.
It will, inevitably, fall apart. Nygma's good but too arrogant for his own good, either he'll miss something, one of his gambles with fail spectacularly, or he'll outmaneuver himself. I'm thinking he'll try to set up a backup plan in case Penguin goes down, Penguin finds out about it in a "You don't really believe in me at all, do you???" scene, and Nygma barely escapes with his life.
Jake Meridius Conhale, at your service!
"Old Man" of the BSG (RDM) boards.