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    keekosdoctor — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 10:43 PM)

    Well we don't know what Luke was framed for, but it must've been pretty awful to land him at seagate, and he doesn't have the excuse of being a kid anymore.
    Captain America Civil War: Tragedian Structure

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      Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:23 PM)

      His motive goes beyond plain old parental favoritism. Their father was a powerful, respected guy, who's name meant something to their whole community. Legacy and family names are something that's treated like a big deal on this show even before Willis shows up, and not only was he denied either of those hints, he was consequently sent to prison for years (something which we know through Luke means his father must've then completely dissacociated with him) while Luke gets off scot free because of his name. Then he tries to make Luke feel how he felt, and Luke gets a relatively short stint in prison with the result being a new lover and superpowers. I doubt that did anything to alleviate his sense of righteous anger.
      To him, it doesn't matter if Luke knew or not. He thinks it's only fair if they experience the same suffering.
      Spot on. This is what people need to understand about Diamondback's motivation and why it makes him a good villain. Willis is a pained man and hurting Luke is the only way to deal with his pain.
      Some people here dont like him because of his silly looking high-tech suit he wore to fight Luke, come on..

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        vladdx — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 09:52 PM)

        Agree completely, they should've sticked with his comics origin. Same with Shades.

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          Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:15 PM)

          they should've sticked with his comics origin.
          Diamondback hates Luke because he blames him for his relationship breakup with Reva. Its more engaging the way it was written in the show.

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            android-impostor — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 10:15 AM)

            Second, I didn't think his motive for killing Luke made sense. Basically he wanted to kill Luke because their father didn't care about him. That's dumb. Luke didn't even know they were related, and he wasn't the reason that Diamondback went to juvie or jail. I understand some tension and jealousy. But framing him, then trying to kill him? That's just way over the top.
            Luke didn't have to do anything to provoke Diamondback's wrath. Stryker saw Cage as the favored son and that was enough. Diamondback definitely blames Luke for his (Stryker's) mother dying alone. Stryker is the first born son but was not legitimized like Luke was.
            With all the biblical references in the series, it's clear that their relationship is meant to mirror that of Cain and Abel.

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              JoostinOnline — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 04:46 PM)

              Luke didn't have to do anything to provoke Diamondback's wrath. Stryker saw Cage as the favored son and that was enough. Diamondback definitely blames Luke for his (Stryker's) mother dying alone. Stryker is the first born son but was not legitimized like Luke was.
              Those are weak reasons. He didn't want to kill Luke when they were kids, and nobody with the slightest trace of sanity would blame Luke for Diamondback's mother dying alone.
              I know he says a "tension" existed between them as kids, but it was subtle enough that Luke didn't even notice it. They were best friends.

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                moustachegai — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 10:36 AM)

                Yeah I feel like we needed more back story - with the dad, and maybe romantic relationships with women they loved etc - to really help his psyche. He just seemed like a spoiled brat at the end but it didn't mesh because he looks like a 50 year old Black man with some form of autism.

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                  don savant — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 10:40 AM)

                  He was a little over the top, but purely entertaining.

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                    Castle177 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:03 PM)

                    That sums it up for me. Right down to the suit he wore in the finale, he was pure comic book cheesiness but in the best way possible.

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                      benelli86 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 10:42 AM)

                      I thought he was a very weak villain. Nothing more than a pathetic Luke Cage wannabe with daddy issues.

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                        Castle177 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 11:56 AM)

                        I feel like we'll be getting in to his real character development if they make a series two. For now I'll just say that I found him enjoyable. I really liked watching him, especially that moment where he shot that guy.
                        Cottonmouth was better though, which is a shame.

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                            Verdugo85 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:31 PM)

                            diamondback hated luke in the comics because of reva and he was a friend not a brother. those idiots changed it for worse
                            You prefer Diamondback hate Luke over a woman?
                            And whats up with this?
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                              Madcap2112 — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:36 PM)

                              You prefer Diamondback hate Luke over a woman?
                              I agree. He's got a better reason in this. Hating someone over a woman is a b!tch move.
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                                  Madcap2112 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 12:05 AM)

                                  Nutjobs don't always make sense.
                                  I get your point, though.
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                                    Retrono — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 12:05 PM)

                                    "You looked at me funny, so you get to die. And you were sitting next to him when he looked at me funny, so you get to die too."
                                    I wish there was scene like that. That's hilarious.

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                                      jon_combo — 9 years ago(October 05, 2016 11:18 PM)

                                      We didn't get to see his performance as a gang leader, prior to finding out that Carl Lucas is still alive.

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                                        Toe_cutter_9000 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 04:50 AM)

                                        The problem is they introduced him late in the show and didnt give enough time for people to really care about him. And theres no reason why he needs to be his brother, its just kind of shoved down your throat, its like by the way theyre brothers, so you have to care about their relationship.

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                                          JoostinOnline — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 03:40 PM)

                                          The problem is they introduced him late in the show and didnt give enough time for people to really care about him. And theres no reason why he needs to be his brother, its just kind of shoved down your throat, its like by the way theyre brothers, so you have to care about their relationship.
                                          They didn't even take advantage of the opportunity to surprise the audience with them being half brothers. It was announced almost at the same time as his appearance in the show.

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