Interesting dilemma
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 10:36 PM)
Totally agree. I've been saying all along that Lucifer may have misinterpreted God's intent,
IF
he was even involved with Lucifer's resurrection. Lucifer just assumes that's what God wants.
I had the idea that the worlds so full of pain it must sometimes make a kind of singing. R. Hass -
jncarriere — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 10:47 PM)
Perhaps God isn't punishing Amendial,rather Amendial's own guilt is causing his fall. I don't read all the spoilers.Charlotte is manipulating Lucifer and I enjoyed the episode and getting more info on her.
Something still feels off withe episodes.Perhaps it's that Lucifer's distracted with Mom and there is less of a "partnership" vibe between him and Chloe this season.
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 10:54 PM)
I agree, something definitely feels different and I can't put my finger on it. I felt it last week too. I swear the filming or lighting looks different and sometimes the sound is different. Maybe they've changed some of the film crew, or have new directors for these first two episodes? But I still enjoyed the episode, it's just not like last year when I was completely in love with every episode. But maybe I didn't actually start out that way? I can't remember, but I know that I didn't save the first three episodes. By the time I got to the fourth, though, I started keeping them and then I was completely bewitched by the show.
Maybe it's just going to take a couple episodes to get back up to speed?
I still like it better than all the other new shows I've seen, and all the old ones, too, for that matter.
I had the idea that the worlds so full of pain it must sometimes make a kind of singing. R. Hass -
jncarriere — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 12:22 AM)
I watch a wide variety of shows and there are many that I really enjoy. I liked Conviction and Timeless,which aired tonight. Personally,I think it's that they changed the focus to Charlotte. I like the episode,but I'm missing the connection between Chloe and Lucifer.Their moments together lack the warmth and sizzle of before.Perhaps that will change later in the season.
Lol,I think Tom is crushing a little to.
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crusojalewhistef — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 11:28 PM)
Now that you mention it I feel like something is a little off but not sure what it is. I still enjoy it but there is something different.
Also this isn't part of how I feel something is off but it was noticeable for me. I feel like you can tell that Tom Ellis has that crush on the actress who plays the mom in parts but maybe that's just cuz I know he has one so my mind might be playing tricks on me. Tom Ellis is a good actor but it's just something I feel like I noticed a bit.
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teatat — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 11:39 PM)
Also this isn't part of how I feel something is off but it was noticeable for me. I feel like you can tell that Tom Ellis has that crush on the actress who plays the mom in parts but maybe that's just cuz I know he has one so my mind might be playing tricks on me. Tom Ellis is a good actor but it's just something I feel like I noticed a bit
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 07:00 AM)
Tom & Joe have said there's supposed to be a bit of an Oedipal undercurrent. Seeing your mom in a hot woman's body must be disconcerting at best.
And Tom doesn't have a crush on Tricia now. He did when she was in Battlestar Galactica, along with every other healthy male with a television.
I had the idea that the worlds so full of pain it must sometimes make a kind of singing. R. Hass -
centrd — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 07:04 AM)
Why would you say he has a crush on her? He's said he had a crush when she was in Battlestar Galactica and every male who saw that show had a crush on her. Hell, I almost had a crush on her, in that red dress?
That doesn't translate to a real life crush. He has a girlfriend, who Tricia knows and gets along with quite well. There's no way you can say Tom's crushing on Tricia without evidence, especially when he's madly in love with Moppy.
Lucifer's supposed to be thrown by Mom's appearance because normally she'd be someone he'd go to bed with, but she's his mother. That's got to be disconcerting.
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crusojalewhistef — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 10:56 AM)
Well in the article about Lucifer (that one of you linked on here) it used crush in the present tense because the reporter says that it must be awkward for the actress you have a crush on to be your mom.
Lucifer's supposed to be thrown by Mom's appearance because normally she'd be someone he'd go to bed with, but she's his mother. That's got to be disconcerting.
That kinda does make sense especially when the body is not his mom. She's just inhabiting it.
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samhaincat-50015 — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 09:47 AM)
Maybe that's why Uriel shows up - he has to take mom back.
Is it possible someone else escaped hell at the same time mom did? They hinted at a big bad awhile ago - unless it will be one of the siblings fallen or not.
Did you believe mum and her she sent Luci to hell story to keep him from being killed by dad? I didn't. She may love them but I think she is at the same time going to manipulate them to get her revenge against hubby. -
barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 10:05 AM)
Did you believe mum and her she sent Luci to hell story to keep him from being killed by dad? I didn't. She may love them but I think she is at the same time going to manipulate them to get her revenge against hubby.
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 10:20 AM)
I don't know if I believe it or not. But Lucifer did.
I'm having a hard time believing that God is that much of an a-hole. We never get to hear his side of the story, except via Father Frank. So I'm guessing the whole story may be more complicated than we think. Like in any divorce, each parent blames the other.
I think this is one reason Ella's here. To counter Mom's negative spin on Dad.
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crusojalewhistef — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 10:50 AM)
Not really it seems odd to me that putting him in hell would protect him. How can he be destroyed up there? Particularly since I thought angels couldn't be hurt even by God.
Plus the fact she was smiling at the sky after makes her seem suspicious..though I know she could be sticking it to him with the truth but it seems more likely to me that someone who's lying would smile like that.
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centrd — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 12:26 PM)
God can destroy angels. God can destroy anything, including the entire universe.
Lucifer was made the ruler of Hell, over damned souls. Souls without bodies can't hurt an archangel who's immortal. And the way Hell works is that the souls design their own punishments, out of guilt or self-loathing or whatever. So that's their sole purpose for being there (pun not intended).
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Haktima14 — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 01:15 PM)
I honestly have no idea if she was telling the truth or not. The upward gaze and mischievous smile at the end of the episode certainly point to no good but then again she did seem taken off guard about Lucie working with God and did seem desperate to find him.
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mythfit-1 — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 06:53 PM)
I think that was more malice than mischief.
He's the most likely support from her point of view. She's totally clueless about the modern world and needs a guide. Plus he's already angry at God so it probably wouldn't take much to twist him into helping her with whatever plot she's got going.
A thousand+ years of torture and I'd say there is some sort of plan in place for some serious payback! I'm rather amazed that she just knocked Maz out. -
barbarawstuller — 9 years ago(October 04, 2016 01:28 PM)
What if God is not responsible and it has nothing to do with any "fall from grace"? What if it is related to Maze's healing? It's not 100% and he's sort of developing complications?
Here's a thought, they have suggested that Mom and Amenadiel grow closer during the season, what if it is SHE that heals him? That would certainly change the family dynamics. A mother healing her ill son. What could be more powerful?