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Why isn't Michael Ironside Darkseid?

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    whitethree — 15 years ago(September 13, 2010 06:04 PM)

    Darkseid should have been voiced by Lance Henriksen.
    Braugher has a cool voice but is horribly miscast as Darkseid, he'd make a nice Despero or Mongul.
    Darkseid should always sound as if with a cold calculated menace, here he sounds like a generic crime boss and way too emotional.

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      eyechart10 — 15 years ago(September 15, 2010 08:22 PM)

      I don't know if i'd call it a "security blanket" so much as I would a "preference." Certain voice actors embed themselves into a role and in my opinion, shouldn't be replaced. Try to imagine someone besides David Hayter doing Solid Snakes voice, or Peter Cullen NOT voicing Optimus Prime. (don't mention Transformers Animated, that was crap) I understand that scheduling conflicts, etc. will sometimes play into this kind of thing, but whatever Michael Ironsides was doing instead of this, I hope he got paid some decent bank.

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          The_Scarecrow — 15 years ago(September 13, 2010 07:17 PM)

          Just watched it, it was good but I totally missed Ironside as the voice of Darkseid.
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            Mr_Garak — 15 years ago(September 15, 2010 06:11 PM)

            Agreed Scarecrow.
            It's like the role of Darkseid was made for Ironside's voice.
            I didn't like how Darkseid was drawn either, I preferred the look of the Superman/Justice League/JLU animated versions of Darkseid.

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              timartnut — 15 years ago(September 17, 2010 02:36 AM)

              let go of the past! CONTEMPORIIIIIIIIZE MAN!
              Misspelling words on purpose does not make you cool.

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                  andyjohnwise — 15 years ago(September 20, 2010 11:09 AM)

                  Though it would have been really hard to get him James Earl Jones would have been perfect for Darkseid, his presence is very similar to Vader and Jones' eloquent yet powerful voice would suit Darkseid to a tee.

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                    superturbo4 — 15 years ago(September 20, 2010 11:47 AM)

                    Man, now that you mention it, James Earl Jones would be fantastically great for a guest voice role in any DC animated feature, i actually wonder why he hasn't been casted in a role by Andrea yet for a DC animated flick, lol!
                    As Darkseid? hmmmm, if Warners did a New Gods DTV movie. I can possibly imagine somebody of James Earl Jones' calibur and importance to be "Yuga Khan" Darkseid's father (currently imprisoned on the 'Source Wall'), now that would be a master-stroke of voiceover casting! I also think a DTV movie based on Jack Kirby's 'New Gods' is long overdue. Orion not Superman or Wonder Woman, is destined to beat and defeat Darkseid. The only way for that to be realised by the majority of DC fans and consumers of the DC animated films, is to feature an entire 90 minute movie around Kirby's New Gods themselves and truly get to know that unique story rather than have it only feature Darkseid as the bad guy for Earth's heroes to look great combating against him. To have a larger epic story be the focus for a New Gods tale, based around the feud and 'Cold War' between Darkseid of Apokolips and Highfather New Genesis and all of the larger than life characters Jack Kirby created for it!
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                      givantha — 15 years ago(September 26, 2010 01:49 AM)

                      Andre Braugher was perfect. He sounded evil. Which is something I look fwd in a villain especially one who is threatening to Superman.This is one of the best DC animations I have seen in a long time. I didn't even notice Ironside was Darkside before.

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                        omoxus — 15 years ago(September 29, 2010 09:51 PM)

                        The only constants are Conroy, Clancy Brown and the Amanda Waller voice. The Mark Hamil joker is pretty cool, but I can live with his replament in the Red Hood. Greenwood is good, but he just comes off as a Conroy wanna be. If I'm going to get another actor, I need another voice altogether.
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                          omoxus — 15 years ago(September 29, 2010 09:55 PM)

                          IMO James Earl Jones for Darkseid is a no go. I'm tired of it. When it comes to Ironside, what stood out to me is how he enunciates Supes native name.
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                            king_faraday — 15 years ago(October 01, 2010 10:09 AM)

                            IMO James Earl Jones for Darkseid is a no go. I'm tired of it. When it comes to Ironside, what stood out to me is how he enunciates Supes native name.
                            Yeah he makes it sounds nasty and dirty. Big kudos to Michael Ironside.

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                              andyjohnwise — 15 years ago(October 02, 2010 12:46 PM)

                              I'm actually not a huge fan of Ironside's Darkseid. His voice is so distinctive and recognizable that it doesn't sound like Darkseid to me, it sounds like Victor, General Katana or Lt. Radcheck.
                              Clancy Brown and Mark Hamill are great because they change their voices to suit the characters so much that you'd never pick them from their normal voices. Ironside, just does Ironside.
                              When I imagine Darkseid's voice in the comics I hear a mixture of Earl Jones' Vader, Hugo Weaving's Megatron and Orson Welles' Unicron.
                              A deep and booming, yet eloquent and omnipotent voice.

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                                chinawhite252 — 15 years ago(October 02, 2010 04:04 PM)

                                hey, omoxus, he is the ONLY one on the show that calls him Kal-El. Even Batman calls him Clark, witch i really don't understand cause that is a fake name. Believe it or not, I have a friend who named his son Kal-El, when even i see him, i always bow and show respect, just in case.
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                                  omoxus — 15 years ago(October 04, 2010 05:54 PM)

                                  P@Chinawhite252
                                  Brainiac addresses him correctly. It is strange that Batamn calls him Clark. Especially since he knows how to speak and/or read Kryptonian. I think Batman just wants to humanize him. Maybe Clark prefers humans to call him that. After all, his parents call him Clark. With Darkseid, I think he just wants to be proper. Darkseid is a godlike being. His experiences are beyond Earth. As of matter of fact, I think he does make reference to his Kryptonian heritage in the Superman series.
                                  Here's something. I had a friend who wanted to call his son Noran Radd. The native name of the Silver Surfer.
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                                    superturbo4 — 15 years ago(October 04, 2010 10:13 PM)

                                    Please tell your friend to wake up and don't be so silly!
                                    Look what happens when celebrities or movie stars give their kids a really ignorant and stupid name. Nicolas Cage for example named his kid 'Kal-El' because he's a Superman and comics obsessive, and even wanted to play Superman at one time. Robin Williams also named his kid after the videogame character name; 'Zelda' (series is mainly about 'Link' anyways, lol?). Just because whomever maybe a huge comics fan, doesn't mean they shouldn't have a lack of responsibility be an idiot and name their kid after a fictional character after drinking one too many, did drugs, smoked some weed or is on a sugar/caffine high or something?
                                    Seriously, tell your friend to pick a bloody normal or unique name and don't go naming him 'Noran Radd' when its spelt 'Norrin Radd' anyways. If you give your kid a stupid name, those parents better not be too surprised when they get beatup at school a few short years later! They might very well change their name when they grow up, but they'll go through a lot of unnecessary hell first because of the dumb name their parents gave them!
                                    It worse stil when somebody changes their name to something from their favorite TV character from childhood. For real, isn't there somebody in the Untied States military with the name 'Optimus Prime'!!! Hell, i like the Transformers universe, but thats taking things way too far isn't it!
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                                      omoxus — 15 years ago(October 05, 2010 05:30 AM)

                                      Zelda is actually a real name. To each his/her own. I recommend nothing.
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                                        superturbo4 — 15 years ago(October 05, 2010 11:51 AM)

                                        Stop acting so dense and take correction when it given to you! This isn't a case of to each or her own, i've known this fact for years and here's the proof dummy Go to his imdb page and you'll that one it says clearly
                                        He likes computer and video-games.

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                                          omoxus — 15 years ago(October 05, 2010 01:20 PM)

                                          Dude, what's with the hysterics? What "defense"? Like I said. To each his own. I'm not the kids father. I nor you have the right to tell people who to name their kids.
                                          Secondly. I'm not looking proof of anything. Who cares? I sure don't. Zelda is a real name. Lastly, what's with the name calling? Calm down. Sheesh!
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