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Can Mel Gibson ever be redeemed?

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    yezziqa — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 04:00 AM)

    Think about it logically. If alcohol was such an effective truth serum, why aren't we getting witnesses and defendants drunk before they take the stand?
    And keep in mind that that Mr Gibson has a bipolar disorder and is an alcoholic, both of those mess with the mind and alcoholism with the brain chemistry.
    I prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially as he has been remorseful. Hasn't his punishment gone on long enough by now?
    And by the way, I can say really spiteful untrue things if i'm a bit to drunk and someone I love hurts my feelings. So you don't even need to be an alcoholic or have a bipolar disorder to lie when drunk.

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      anee08 — 9 years ago(December 22, 2016 11:58 AM)

      He's been remorseful? Can't say I've heard him apologize for anything.
      He's a drunk, a holocaust denier, an anti-Semite, a producer of gratuitous violence and torture porn, a serial adulterer, and a man who has been abusive to his former partner and is about to have an illegitimate child.
      No one is perfect, but let's get real here: he claims to be a devout Catholic, but it's his wealth, power and celebrity that entitles him to speak and behave like a lowlife bum.
      I do not respect him, I do not like him and I do not forgive him.

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          feakes — 9 years ago(December 25, 2016 11:01 AM)

          except anee08Gibson DID apologize for his actions not just once but over and over and over again. How many apologies does one man need to make ? Anyways He doesn't know you and I think he can do fine without you and your hateful kind.
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            rascal67 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 06:06 PM)

            I do not respect him, I do 238not like him and I do not forgive him.


            Yes, Gibson has had some dark issues to deal with, but your condemnation of him is staggering. Yes, he may be a hypocrite with some of his Catholic ideology; but that is for him to sort out and what you read in the media IS NOT always telling the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
            Are you Christian, because it sounds like you are placing judgement on him based on your own beliefs and value system? If that is the case, then I suggest you look at the notion of "forgiveness" and what C16d0hrist really stand for, instead of coming across as a phony contrarian and hypocrite yourself. If you act as though you are holier than thou, make sure you have your tongue planted firmly in your cheek and have your wits about you.
            Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests.

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              rascal67 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 10:44 PM)

              I can say really spiteful untrue things if i'm a bit drunk


              I can say really spiteful things when I'm sober
              which is all the time, since I don't drink
              but I'd like to think I am being truthful about what I am saying.
              Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests.

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                TheDarkKnightMatter — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 10:35 AM)

                What kind of beep is that? I bet you have no friends. I guess alcohol shows everyone their true colors, so did you write this drunk? Cause you sound like a complete cereal box scholar.
                Don't get hurt kid. I'm not your daddy, I'll beat you senseless.

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                  LukeLovesFilm28 — 10 years ago(February 17, 2016 12:52 AM)

                  Did you ever think that RDJ did things and said things that we never and will never hear about? Mel was just unfortunate enough to get his ass caught saying and doing stupid sh!t.

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                    napgar1982 — 9 years ago(June 10, 2016 11:18 PM)

                    To steal from Dan Harmon:
                    "We're Robert Downy Jr. He was so high he was crawling through people's windows. Now, he's Iron Man."
                    Can only imagine what no one saw. But I guess all of us are just perfect angels, yeah? I've never said or done anything wrong!
                    I think I've lost my first two rounds in life. I'm still warming up for #3.

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                      ad101867-1 — 9 years ago(August 02, 2016 08:49 PM)

                      He shouldn't have made negative comments about Jews - but nearly everyone forgets the context of Mel's remarks. Shortly beforehand, droves of Jews had ripped him a new one for directing
                      The Passion of the Christ
                      ; they tried (wrongly) to portray the film itself as antisemitic. There's no way to prove the following assertion, but I believe that had the Jewish community adopted a "live and let live" approach, Mel never would've been caught out in a situation where he was tempted to make antisemitic remarks in the first place.

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                        RomaVictorrrr — 9 years ago(August 03, 2016 10:38 AM)

                        Interesting. People DO tend to forget that it was The Passion that angered certain people in the first place.
                        You think it was those reactions that DROVE, or at least helped drive, Gibson to that point?

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                          ad101867-1 — 9 years ago(August 08, 2016 03:53 PM)

                          My preferred word here is "tempted." The word "drive" almost implies that Mel couldn't help saying what he said, but I don't believe that. He
                          could
                          help it. All I'm saying is that his comments weren't out of the blue: the antichristian Jewish lobby (no,
                          not all Jews
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                          antisemitic) vilified Mel and his film without just cause - so Gibson's natural reaction was to get angry and say things in the heat of his anger.
                          He shouldn't have done it; I'm not excusing or condoning his words. I'm merely pointing out that it's not like he just woke up one morning and thought,
                          I'm gonna make some public antisemitic comments today!
                          with zero instigation.

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                            bishop-69757 — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 11:56 AM)

                            With the general public? Yes and most people are over it
                            Hollywood Liberals? No
                            These people are the biggest hypocrites on the planet and have no trouble working with Roman Polanski or a Woody Allen.

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                              morris45 — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 08:04 AM)

                              Thats exactly what I thought. They give those creeps a pass (and many awards) and they condemn Mel. They consider them "geniuses", but theyve turned Mel into a laughin stock and a living joke. Yes, what he did was bad, but is not like he raped a child or molested his own daughter and married his girlfriends adoptive daughter.
                              I never cared for Allen or his mediocre movies, I think hes one of the most overrated directors in history and the fact that he gets a pass while Gibsons been blacklisted, says a lot about Hollywood. At least Polanski is a great director, though, and (I believe) still a wanted man, unlike Mr. Konigsberg.
                              But I belive that Mell will have his revenge. He only needs one hit to do so.

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                                bloodynoserudy — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 11:19 AM)

                                Also what Mark Wahlberg did was far worse and the press and Hollywood have certainly let that go. When he was younger, Wahlberg chased after school kids-when their teacher was present-threatening to kill them, using slurs against them and throwing rocks at them (one of them still has a scar). Then he savagely beat two innocent men and was charged with attempted murder-yet he only served a little over a month in prison. He claimed that changed him (he never wanted to go back there), yet he then got into a fight with his neighbor and broke the guy's jaw. On top of that, Wahlberg admitted that he never even apologized to his victims (the opposite of Mel, who made amends to anyone he might have offended when it became public what he had said while drunk and angry)-and yet Wahlberg said his conscience didn't bother him at all. Wahlberg is clearly an awful human being-and the press is still reminding us about
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                                Mel made years ago in his personal life? Mel just pissed off the wrong individuals.
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                                  morris45 — 10 years ago(February 21, 2016 06:08 PM)

                                  I forgot about Marky Mark! It's a shame that you can do what he did and still be forgiven. Everyone is saying that it was actually the phone calls to his ex that caused all of this and that it was an example of his true personality, but Alec Balwin did the same and to his own daughter, yet, he is as popular as ever, even winning major awards for his work on TV.
                                  So I believe it was the anti-semitic remarks that got him banned from Hollywood.

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                                      rascal67 — 9 years ago(January 24, 2017 10:39 PM)

                                      what Mark Wahlberg did was far worsehe savagely beat two innocent men and was charged with attempted murder-yet he only served a little over a month in prison. He claimed that changed him (he never wanted to go back there)


                                      Whalberg has been a very fortunate man and if he had savagely beaten two innocent women, I wonder if he would have served ONLY a month in prison. The justice system can be biased and sexist when it comes to male victims, as opposed to female. He did have some serious anger issues to deal with at the time and he was also younger than Gibson. Things happen and people get lost and caught along the way. I don't judge Whalberg or Gibson for whatever they did; it can't be undone and even if people are punished for their crimes, people still want to go on punishing them. Some things do need to be let go of, and we also don't know what other amends Whalberg has made to his victims from his past.
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                                        buddyboy28 — 10 years ago(February 15, 2016 12:52 PM)

                                        No because we live in a hypocritical society.
                                        We live in a society where the cast of Hangover wouldn't work with Mel but would work with convicted rapist Mike Tyson, where Bill Murray's wife accused him of beating her but no one was bothered, and Marlon Brando insulted the Jewish community in Hollywood and it's never mentioned.
                                        Why was it different with Mel?
                                        I can only assume it's because he insulted the Jewish community while in a drunken state and being arrested at a time when he'd already pissed many off with his Christ movie, and then came the recorded phone calls that were everywhere on the internet for people to hear.
                                        On top of that, some people like to paint him with the same brush as his dad.
                                        Mel will NEVER be redeemed or escape from the controversy but I'm still a fan.
                                        See if you bastards can do 90

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                                          LukeLovesFilm28 — 10 years ago(February 17, 2016 12:46 AM)

                                          Unfortunate but true. Well said, buddyboy.

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