He never gets hit!!!
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dolemite72 — 9 years ago(July 28, 2016 06:20 AM)
Yes, I get what you're sayingbut like I said Seagal is his own 'genre'
People still watch his movies, not to see if he'll defeat his enemies.but merely when and how. If this was a moot point for you at OUT FORJUSTICE (his fourth movie) and that 25 years (and almost 50 movies) later, he still remains omnipotent..I'd hardly expect an eleventh hour change in his fight scenes (however much it may be needed)
If anything, his 'undefeatable' stance to his fight scenes has gotten worse in his latter movies (this is a combination of ego and the fact that his coreography and work-ethic isn't what he used to be either) unlike say, Eastwood, Stallone or even Schwarzenegger..Seagal doesn't want to show the older, weaker, doubtful side of his mortality. Seagal probably still sees himself as Nico Toscani, and still has enough clout in the (allbeit, smaller) DTV industry to still call the shots in regards to rewrites, direction, dialogue, hiring and firing.
Seagal's ego wouldn't allow it.and to be honest the only way it could be made remotely viable, would be to pair him up against another Aikidoa..but then, that in theory would be like pitting two goalkeepers against each other. Aikido is defence, so needs offence..and for Seagal to let his defence slip, would be doing his craft (and lifetimes studies) a disservice. I can sort of see the logic in that (but I'll wager it's also 80% ego fuelled?)
But for what it's worth I did compile a semi-detailed list of all the hits he's taken over the years (further down on this thread)
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DoctorDraconian — 9 years ago(May 02, 2016 09:40 AM)
To be fair, he died in Executive Decision when shutting himself out of a flying airplane to save Kurt Russell.
Kurt: "we're not gonna make it!"
Steven: "You are!!"
Also, he got shot to death in Mechete. He actually played a bad guy (drug lord) and had a funny accent too! -
bluefarmer14 — 9 years ago(May 09, 2016 01:02 PM)
You are absolutely right, although he died on (Executive Decision), he got very angry when he found out, the drama should be available on the Internet, but long sto1908ry short he never died again in a movie, hes too good and important on his head for that.
Even on machete he makes fun of the audience by saying hes only dying because he wants to.
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dolemite72 — 9 years ago(May 24, 2016 11:54 AM)
After reading endless threads about how omnipotent Seagal appears in his movies, I thought I'd invest a bit of effort in compiling a list of times that Seagal is hit in his movies. And going from memory (without actually rewatching all the movies) you'll find that he takes a lot more punishment, than his detractors give him (dis)credit for?
Above The Law: Drugged and Beaten
Hard To Kill: Shot and put in a coma
Marked For Death: knocked unconscious by henchmen and punched/headslammed several times by Screwface.
Out For Justice: Hit with a pool cue and later shot in the stomach
Under Siege: Cut with hooks on his back and a knife slash to his eye
On Deadly Ground: Blown up
Under Siege 2: Shot, punched and kicked to the head
The Glimmer Man: Kicked in the stomach, punched in the nose
Executive Decision: (spoiler alert) KILLED
Exit Wounds: Punched, kicked
Half Past Dead: Shot, punched
The Foreigner: Knocked unconscious, strangled, tortured
Belly Of The Beast: Punched, kicked
Clementine: Punched, kicked, defeated in combat.
Out Of Reach: Punched
Into The Sun: Kicked
Submereged: Kicked
Black Dawn: Punched
Attack Force: Punched, knocked down and horrendously dubbed
Urban Justice: Shot
Kill Switch: Punched on several occasions
Driven To Kill: Punched and Kicked in the final fight
The Keeper: Shot and hospitalised
Machete: Stabbed and killed (although slightly suicidal)
Not to mention the fact that the bad guys always manage to hurt his feelings in EVERY movie
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itemtotem-25769 — 9 years ago(June 05, 2016 10:34 PM)
You are forgetting that Seagal has been Deified by the Dalai Lama. That is why he doesn't get hit; the japanese people consider him to be a God.
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Turricanmachine — 9 years ago(August 21, 2016 02:55 AM)
To tell you the truth I hate movies where hero gets badly beaten but somehow gathers final strengt and beats the villain. That's nonsense.
Either you make hero equal to villain or better.
However I do think Seagal gets even less hits in his past movies last 10 years. That's why Seagal movies in 1988-2005 were better than ones he made in the last 10 years. -
TMC-4 — 9 years ago(November 29, 2016 12:07 AM)
I think audiences after a while caught up in the repetition of Seagals movies. It was after he it hit big w/
Under Siege
(ironically, Seagals version of
Die Hard
) that it seemed like hes ego really got let loose (hence, his environmental vanity project
On Deadly Ground
). And of course, he rose a big stink over getting killed in
Executive Decision
. I think that had Steven rose to stardom several years prior to
Die Hard
, he may have gotten more mileage out of his shtick.
Sooner or later, Steven shouldve realized that he had to reinvent himself so to speak, like get into ensembles (like
Executive Decision
), do comedy on occasion, or even try to play a villain (like he did in
Machete
many years later). But again, I just dont think that Stevens ego wouldve permitted him to get to far out of his safety net.
I think Steven aligning himself w/ hip-hop artists like DMX and Ja-Rule was the closest he came to a reinvention. And a first, it seemed to payoff as
Exit Wounds
was surprisingly successful given Stevens more recent track record up until that point. Its just that w/ the later movie (
Half Past Dead
), they made the mistake on trying to aim for a PG-13 rating (up until that point all of Steven Seagals films have been R-rated, so naturally his fan-base was going to get a watered down film), and by that time, Steven was no longer convincing (due to his physical condition at the time) to truly be convincing in heavy-duty fight scenes. It all felt like I guess, a B-movie version of
The Rock
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