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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Steven Spielberg
gregorik — 9 years ago(September 07, 2016 12:39 PM)
Variety:
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/shia-labeouf-drinking-steven-spielberg-american-honey-1201851776/
He thought it would be a dream come true, but he had a hard time. I grew up with this idea, if you got to Spielberg, thats where it is, says LaBeouf, who originally wanted roles like Macaulay Culkins in the Home Alone movies. Im not talking about fame, and Im not talking about money.
He thought Spielberg would be his ticket to a big-screen legacy. You get there, and you realize youre not meeting the Spielberg you dream of, LaBeouf says. Youre meeting a different Spielberg, who is in a different stage in his career. Hes less a director than he is a fking company. (Spielberg declined to comment.)
LaBeouf felt like there was no room to grow as an actor, and that he was stuck. Spielbergs sets are very different, he says. Everything has been so meticulously planned. You got to get this line out in 37 seconds. You do that for five years, you start to feel like not knowing what youre doing for a living.
When LaBeouf completed the recent art project of re-watching his old films, he purposefully got up and left during the second Transformers, which was executive produced by Spielberg. I dont like the movies that I made with Spielberg, he says. The only movie that I liked that we made together was Transformers one.
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MrX2848 — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 07:29 AM)
That is both wrong and beep stupid. Those movies (along with "Munich", but you'd probably consider that one too old to matter) are two of the smartest and savviest political dramas released by Hollywood in years.
Also, what is "edge"? How to you quantify it? When, specifically, did Spielberg lose it?
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gregorik — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 07:39 AM)
I faintly remember that you've been on the Spielberg boards since forever, and you might be his biggest living fan. No point or patience in arguing with you.
I actually own Munich on dvd and I do think that, along with War of the Worlds, it's his final worthwhile film.
You don't quantify edge, you just feel it.
Read Pauline Kael's final assessment of Spielberg: the most celebrated film critic of her time argued as early as the 90's that Spielberg had lost his edge.
I personally think that he began to be slipping seriously with Always (1989) and Hook (1991). But he didn't lose his edge completely until much later, by the time of Indiana Jones 4.
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MrX2848 — 9 years ago(September 13, 2016 07:48 AM)
Saying "You don't quantify edge" nullifies the argument. You're essentially admitting you're arguing a fault that can't be described or calculated. It's empty posturing.
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AnthonySocksss — 1 year ago(January 31, 2025 05:05 AM)
You are a ****ing idiot
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TMC-4 — 9 years ago(September 12, 2016 11:51 PM)
https://www.datalounge.com/thread/17582381958-why-is-steven-spielberg-disliked-by-hollywood-insiders-.-
Shia Labeouf for all his usual general idiocy said something really intelligent about Spielberg recently: that he's not so much a director now as he is a corporation. I think he was a very talented director once who sold out too much.
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Spielberg has made excellent films throughout his career and to say otherwise is disingenuous to me. He's undoubtedly lost his edge overtime andb68 I do agree with Shia's assessment about his corporate essence, but the man's an important filmmaker.
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ridderclaude — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 06:22 AM)
A film isn't about any one actor or his vanity. Even as someone who doesn't like most of Spielberg's films, this feels like the type of grandstanding a self-serving actor would take up only after being in an acclaimed indie. SS didn't direct those Transformers movies, Bay didunless he's suggesting the former has more authorship on the actors' performances tha111cn the actual director. I get that SL wants to be taken seriously as an Artist and stirring up anti-corporatist sentiments is a good way to earn brownie points with the pretentious cine-hipsters, but maybe people should look within themselves for faults before trashing others.
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ZakkWyldeMyLittlePony — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 08:33 PM)
Apparently, Shia Labouf and Megan Fox both fell out with Spielberg which honestly doesn't faze me. They are both talentless hacks.
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framsay1 — 9 years ago(December 17, 2016 02:23 PM)
Shia is a nutjob but I can't fault anyone for speaking honestly. This Speilberg is not in the same universe of director he once was. I can't remember the last time he did anything exciting or great. Sad but true.