Suck on that MAGA!
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 09:17 PM)
Yeah let’s just ignore the guy that pointed a firearm at two people and pulled the trigger like a retard.
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 09:23 PM)
And if it was in the script that he had to shoot at people?
The buck falls with the armourer. To let a live bullet on the set is the most incompetent thing an armourer can do. It should be their bread and butter
But she is being defended because she is a woman. Who are always given reprieve from accountability when there is a man around who can be blamed.
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 11:13 PM)
There is no law that protects you after you fire a gun at someone just because you’re shooting a screenplay.
Also on film sets they’re not supposed to aim real firearms at anyone either.
If you were shooting a movie in your backyard with your buddies and ‘accidentally’ killed one of them with a gun you would not get away with saying “but it wuz in muh script”.
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/. — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 11:18 PM)
I assumed they overcharged him (murder) and that's why he got off. Apparently it was involuntary manslaughter which should have stuck.
It's on you to check the firearm you're handling once you lay hands on it. I don't care what the armorer or anyone else told you.
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 11:26 PM)
There is no law that protects you after you fire a gun at someone just because you’re shooting a screenplay.
Also on film sets they’re not supposed to aim real firearms at anyone either.
He didn't aim and fire at someone. The prop gun, that the useless armourer had loaded with real ammo, accidentally discharges as he cocks the hammer. Which also counts as a failing on the armourer's part.
Like I said, in the script he has to shoot someone. So that bullet was getting fired for real at some point. Which is down to the armourer on set. Why are you not laying any blame at her feet? The evidence pointing to her is undeniable.
You aren't blaming her because she is a woman. And you are suffering from inherent bias towards men.
If you were shooting a movie in your backyard with your buddies and ‘accidentally’ killed one of them with a gun you would not get away with saying “but it wuz in muh script”.
Is this a serious retort? How is this scenario comparable to a licensed movie set with an industry approved armourer?
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 23, 2023 11:52 PM)
He aimed the gun at people you ****ing moron. That is a negligent discharge. It doesn’t matter that it was an accident. You never aim a firearm at anything you’re not willing to kill.
We’re talking about Baldwin dumbass, stay on topic you misogynist ****wit.
What is a “licensed movie set”? Why do you think that protects you from killing people anymore than shooting a movie in your backyard?
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 12:07 AM)
Stop foaming at the mouth pal. You are making yourself look like a petulant child. Try to keep your composure more.
He aimed the gun at people
It's a film about the wild west
. Do you think Keanu Reeves went through all those John Wick and Matrix films without aiming a gun at anyone? This is a useless argument, and you know it.
That is a negligent discharge
She wasn't killed by a negligent discharge. She was killed by a negligent armourer who allowed a live bullet into a gun that was always going to be fired at some point. The fact that you can't even acknowledge this fact points to your blatant sexism.
What is a “licensed movie set”?
A set approved to have prop firearms supplied by a competent armourer.
Why do you think that protects you from killing people anymore than shooting a movie in your backyard?
You are making a false equivalency here. People just shooting stuff in there backyard wouldn't be granted a license.
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 02:01 AM)
Are you legitimately this retarded or jus trolling? No, Keanu Reeves never pointed a real ****ing gun at anyone in either the Matrix or John Wick movies. They don’t even use real firearms in John Wick. Dipshit.
Baldwin was the guy who pointed the gun at people. We’re talking about Baldwin here, stop deflecting and making this about politics you dumb ****
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Let me explain something to you clown, independent filmmakers like you shooting in your backyard can apply for the DGA and pay a “licensed” armourer too. Or you go to a gun range and the armourer gives you a firearm to practice with. Just because someone with the job title “armourer” hands you a gun and says it’s okay to point it at someone and cock the trigger doesn’t absolve you of responsibility. There is no “movie set license” that gives you immunity from negligence. If you did this you would be in prison yesterday, because you’re not rich and famous like Baldwin.
This is how I talk, get the **** over it, take your medicine and stop being a triggered crybaby
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 03:28 AM)
Take what medicine exactly? You can't even follow basic logic and are filling your arguments with non sequiturs. It's because you are ranting like a mad man and not engaging your brain properly. I advise some camomile tea and a light sedative.
No, Keanu Reeves never pointed a real ***ing gun at anyone in either the Matrix or John Wick movies.
How could you possibly know this?
Were you on the set with your eyeball down the barrel of every single gun in every single shot? Hilarious. See… you are confusing 'pointed' with 'aimed' It would be against gun safety protocols to be aiming a gun towards anyone, but the fact is at some point a barrel of a gun is going to be pointed in someone's direction. Especially in a film with lots of guns and extras. It's the armourer's job to keep live bullets off the set so accidents cannot happen when human errors are made.
Alec Baldwin was practising aiming the gun at the camera. Not aiming the gun toward the woman that was killed.
Let me explain something to you clown, independent filmmakers like you shooting in your backyard can apply for the DGA and pay a “licensed” armourer too. Or you go to a gun range and the armourer gives you a firearm to practice with. Just because someone with the job title “armourer” hands you a gun and says it’s okay to point it at someone and cock the trigger doesn’t absolve you of responsibility. There is no “movie set license” that gives you immunity from negligence.
What a silly hypothetical. You have no way of proving this to be true. Unless of course, an incompetent armourer fails to do his/her job again on set. Any more redundant hypotheticals?- I concede that I used poor examples of films that use firearms. John Wick and the Matrix films do not use real firearms.
Alba gu bràth
- I concede that I used poor examples of films that use firearms. John Wick and the Matrix films do not use real firearms.
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 02:57 PM)
Yep you’re definitely a retarded clown, lmao
You’re just pulling random bullshit out your ass like “Hur Dur Keanu Reeves was walking around pointin gunnns at e’erybody too, hurrr durrr” despite the fact you have no evidence of this and Keanu Reeves is smarter than Alec Baldwin and wouldn’t do such heinously unsafe ****
Baldwin aimed the gun at ****ing people, do you think they were shot by a magic bullet? Lmao
Listen you ****ing retard, you walk into a gun range and the “armourer” hands you a gun and you point it at someone and cock the trigger and it goes off and you kill them, then your ass is going to jail….. unless you’re Alec Baldwin.
There is nothing in the law that protects you and lets you blame the armourer instead. Because pointing guns at anyone is negligence. Get the **** over it clown
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 04:26 PM)
I'm not interested in the semantics of which films used real firearms and which films didn't. That is irrelevant to my point.
“Hur Dur Keanu Reeves was walking around pointin gunnns at e’erybody too, hurrr durrr” despite the fact you have no evidence of this and Keanu Reeves is smarter than Alec Baldwin and wouldn’t do such heinously unsafe ****
Can you categorically deny that live firearms have ever (accidentally or not) been pointed towards a human being on film sets? Take your time with this one, it seems to stump you.
Baldwin aimed the gun at ****ing people, do you think they were shot by a magic bullet?
Not according to the witnesses on set. Are they all in on your "rich white guyz are above the law" gibbering as well?
Listen you ****ing retard, you walk into a gun range and the “armourer” hands you a gun and you point it at someone and cock the trigger and it goes off and you kill them, then your ass is going to jail….. unless you’re Alec Baldwin.
Guns at gun ranges are expected to be loaded. This is another non sequitur from you.
Have you had your tea yet?
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 04:48 PM)
Stop changing the subject ******, you made the claim, the burden of proof’s on you dickweed
Prove to everyone here that Keanu Reeves was running around pointing firearms at the film crew, we’re waiting….
Baldwin was aiming the gun at people retardo, you think they were shot by a magic bullet? Fucking moron
You missed the point dumbass, EVERY firearm is “expected to be loaded” that’s why they’re called FIREARMS.
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Hepocles — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 04:57 PM)
No, Keanu Reeves never pointed a real ****ing gun at anyone in either the Matrix or John Wick movies.
The burden of proof is on you. This is your claim. Were you on the set at the time? I just made the assertion that because it can happen, the armourer's job is to make sure LIVE bullets do not cause a tragedy, if it does happen.
You missed the point dumbass, EVERY firearm is “expected to be loaded” that’s why they’re called FIREARMS.
Not on a film set. They are expected to be loaded at a gun range because the expectation is to be shooting at a target. What is the expectation on a film set? This is really a very simple point that you can't address, because addressing it means that you admit the fault lies with the armourer who allowed live ammunition on set.
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BlablaBlackSheep — 2 years ago(April 24, 2023 05:09 PM)
You’re a dumb retarded wigger, you made the claim asswipe, the burden of proof is on you
You’re ****ing dumb and have no knowledge of gun safety like that ****tard Baldwin. EVERY gun is expected to be loaded, and you NEVER point it at anything you’re not willing to destroy. This is basic firearm safety 101, it does
not ****ing matter if it’s on a film set, backyard, gun range, or in the ****ing Arctic, EVERY GUN IS EXPECTED TO BE LOADED YOU DUMBASS. Just because the armourer lies to you does not give you immunity from shooting and killing someone dumbass
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 