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Explain why isn't her topless at 16 considered Child Porn…But?

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    tenantennae — 12 years ago(January 23, 2014 11:37 PM)

    Keira Knightley bared her books at age 16 in the movie Holes.
    I think it's called "The Hole"
    "Holes" is a Disney kids movie starring Shia LaDouche

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      RacingThoughts — 15 years ago(July 28, 2010 11:44 PM)

      There is a difference between nudity and pornography. The difference is the intent. Nudity with no artistic or scientific merit is pornography for the purposes of the law. It would be hard to argue that a movie like
      American Beauty
      lacks artistic merit, because it has a lot, and that particular scene wasn't gratuitous or irrelevant to the rest of the movie. It was integral to the development of Thora's character. So there's more than enough grounds to argue that the shot was artistic rather than pornographic.
      On the other hand, girls sending topless photos of themselves over the Internet is done without even the pretense of artistic expression. It's nudity meant only to arouse lascivious desires without any redeeming value. The
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      irony is that laws written to
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      children are now being used to prosecute them. In my opinion that's even worse than a double standard (which the law contains plenty of as well). Charging them with a crime is protecting them from exploitation? You can always count on America's district attorneys to raise the bar on pure absurdity! Franz Kafka, eat your heart out.
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          Franco_Zed — 15 years ago(September 09, 2010 12:54 AM)

          What if some 16 teen year olds start sending each other nude photos that definitely do have artistic merit, or are definitely debatable. That could be problematic.
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            HelenKeller69 — 15 years ago(October 05, 2010 10:38 PM)

            If I were to have, say, a picture of an underage girl who was topless, and there was a plastic bag floating around in the background, would this be a crime?

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              poem — 15 years ago(October 07, 2010 02:40 AM)

              Depends upon where you live, I guess.
              I'm no expert on crazy USA law, so I cant say what they have there.

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                  cheluzal — 13 years ago(November 21, 2012 08:12 AM)

                  Oh, yeah, I'm sure no lascivious desires were aroused when guys watched a 16 y/o girl'd boobs. A cursory look at this board proves otherwise.
                  You can claim it's a movie and artistic but the majority of people just act ;like neanderthals and just see naked girl.
                  Semantics won't change that.
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                      actionmanrandell — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 02:15 AM)

                      because the point of the scene was not for sexual gratification and her parents consented to the scene

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                        zill_o_the_wisp — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 03:22 AM)

                        Well, of course they consented they were both neck deep in the porn industry!
                        Not that this scene in question was pornographic; it wasn't. I don't like the movie, but clearly it wasn't pornography
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                          andromache3 — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 12:11 AM)

                          Um if I remember correctly, didn't she take off her top to get the guy who was perving on her with his video camera off??
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                            blakkdog — 11 years ago(July 25, 2014 12:02 PM)

                            So legally all you need is consent from a parent to let your kid have a nude scene? What if they are even younger? And is it about the jurisdiction where the scene was shot or can it be selectively censored based on where the movie is being shown? Not that it matters to me Asking for a friend

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                              ChristianWoolf — 12 years ago(October 04, 2013 03:21 AM)

                              Because her nudity scene in American Beauty has nothing to do with pornography. It has it's purpose just like a nude painting. Do you consider a girl naked in a painting child porn? Nudity isn't always linked to pornography. She just showed her boobs, nothing more. I don't get all that hype on this subject, makes no sense.
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                                  Sandoz — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 05:15 AM)

                                  Once more, for the umpteenth time, for all you puritanical uptight prudes out there
                                  Nuditymale or female of ANY ageif not done within a sexual context, is NOT pornography. That's not an opinionit's the law.
                                  That some people want to look at look at pictures of naked children with sexual thoughts is sick.
                                  That some people can't see these pictures without THINKING about OTHERS looking at them with sexual thoughts is nearly just as sick.
                                  This is very hard to read, isn't it?

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                                    burgershmurger — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 02:09 PM)

                                    Making a 16-year-old undress in front of a camera to me is borderline child pornography. People upload and share the snapshot of that scene online. Does this not amount to child pornography? There is no context given to that picture. Besides, Mendes should be ashamed of himself for making a susceptible minor undress. He could have easily picked an 18-year-old.

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                                      elaphe-1 — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 04:13 PM)

                                      I'm going to play the devil's advocate here; why is 18 the magic number? Why not 17 or 19? I'm not talking about the law, I'm just wondering about people's reasoning about what the law should be?

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                                        shrugs — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 07:30 PM)

                                        Why does it matter? What are the real negative consequences of Birch being topless in a movie for a few seconds at 16? And who says they "made" her?
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                                          burgershmurger — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 12:46 PM)

                                          When you are a minor and an adult has sex with you it is considered rape. In the same sense, Mendes made a susceptible minor do an indecent act. The mere notion how Mendes is sitting behind a camera watching a minor undress is to me revolting. No wonder that pervert's marriage ended pretty quickly.

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