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Explain why isn't her topless at 16 considered Child Porn…But?

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    poem — 15 years ago(October 07, 2010 02:40 AM)

    Depends upon where you live, I guess.
    I'm no expert on crazy USA law, so I cant say what they have there.

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        cheluzal — 13 years ago(November 21, 2012 08:12 AM)

        Oh, yeah, I'm sure no lascivious desires were aroused when guys watched a 16 y/o girl'd boobs. A cursory look at this board proves otherwise.
        You can claim it's a movie and artistic but the majority of people just act ;like neanderthals and just see naked girl.
        Semantics won't change that.
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            actionmanrandell — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 02:15 AM)

            because the point of the scene was not for sexual gratification and her parents consented to the scene

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              zill_o_the_wisp — 15 years ago(February 04, 2011 03:22 AM)

              Well, of course they consented they were both neck deep in the porn industry!
              Not that this scene in question was pornographic; it wasn't. I don't like the movie, but clearly it wasn't pornography
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                andromache3 — 12 years ago(June 08, 2013 12:11 AM)

                Um if I remember correctly, didn't she take off her top to get the guy who was perving on her with his video camera off??
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                  blakkdog — 11 years ago(July 25, 2014 12:02 PM)

                  So legally all you need is consent from a parent to let your kid have a nude scene? What if they are even younger? And is it about the jurisdiction where the scene was shot or can it be selectively censored based on where the movie is being shown? Not that it matters to me Asking for a friend

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                    ChristianWoolf — 12 years ago(October 04, 2013 03:21 AM)

                    Because her nudity scene in American Beauty has nothing to do with pornography. It has it's purpose just like a nude painting. Do you consider a girl naked in a painting child porn? Nudity isn't always linked to pornography. She just showed her boobs, nothing more. I don't get all that hype on this subject, makes no sense.
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                        Sandoz — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 05:15 AM)

                        Once more, for the umpteenth time, for all you puritanical uptight prudes out there
                        Nuditymale or female of ANY ageif not done within a sexual context, is NOT pornography. That's not an opinionit's the law.
                        That some people want to look at look at pictures of naked children with sexual thoughts is sick.
                        That some people can't see these pictures without THINKING about OTHERS looking at them with sexual thoughts is nearly just as sick.
                        This is very hard to read, isn't it?

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                          burgershmurger — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 02:09 PM)

                          Making a 16-year-old undress in front of a camera to me is borderline child pornography. People upload and share the snapshot of that scene online. Does this not amount to child pornography? There is no context given to that picture. Besides, Mendes should be ashamed of himself for making a susceptible minor undress. He could have easily picked an 18-year-old.

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                            elaphe-1 — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 04:13 PM)

                            I'm going to play the devil's advocate here; why is 18 the magic number? Why not 17 or 19? I'm not talking about the law, I'm just wondering about people's reasoning about what the law should be?

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                              shrugs — 12 years ago(March 11, 2014 07:30 PM)

                              Why does it matter? What are the real negative consequences of Birch being topless in a movie for a few seconds at 16? And who says they "made" her?
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                                burgershmurger — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 12:46 PM)

                                When you are a minor and an adult has sex with you it is considered rape. In the same sense, Mendes made a susceptible minor do an indecent act. The mere notion how Mendes is sitting behind a camera watching a minor undress is to me revolting. No wonder that pervert's marriage ended pretty quickly.

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                                  shrugs — 12 years ago(March 12, 2014 03:01 PM)

                                  It's easy to frame literally anything as lecherous and indecent if we choose the right phrasing, but you didn't actually answer my question.
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                                    burgershmurger — 12 years ago(March 13, 2014 02:19 PM)

                                    Why is it negative to photograph minors and sell the pictures? DUH! Cause it's child pornography. Because she was too young to consent to such a lewd act! Did I answer your question?

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                                      shrugs — 12 years ago(March 13, 2014 02:22 PM)

                                      Do you think you've answered it?
                                      What are the real negative consequences of Birch being topless in a movie for a few seconds at 16?
                                      That was my question.
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                                        elaphe-1 — 11 years ago(April 11, 2014 06:49 PM)

                                        It's been awhile since I've seen the film, but if I recall correctly Birch was topless but there was no sex scene. How is being topless an indecent act? And pornography has nothing to do with nudity; it has to do with sexual arousal. She would have to have been engaged in some sort of sexual activity for it to have been considered pornography.

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                                          BulmaPunkRocker — 10 years ago(June 25, 2015 10:12 PM)

                                          When you are a minor and an adult has sex with you it is considered rape.
                                          Really? If you have 17 and your boyfriend 18, being 18 the age of "full consent" and 16 the age of consent, isn't it "statutory rape" or something?
                                          I'm not familiar with USA laws, I know you people can drive a car at 16 but cannot have a beer until 21, I don't understand, but wathever.
                                          It's not related with the movie, but with the sentence I quoted. If an underage person, who is in age of consent (let's say 16), have sex with an adult (let's say 19), isn't that "statutory rape" and not "rape"? I thought that rape was when the victim was a minor under the age of consent and/or the victim didn't consent at all.
                                          Please excuse my terrible redaction, english is not my native language
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