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    Lilith — 1 year ago(March 14, 2025 11:20 PM)

    From what I gathered, they were not close when his children were young but there were some measures to get closer as his children got older. I don't know if there's any weight to that or not. There may have been some subtle attempts, but Betsy is said to have been very protective of Gene and his health (ie: not stressing him out), and one would think if his children were at all close to Gene, they would know he had dementia and would not have said he was generally in very good health and allow so much time to pass without physically checking in on them.
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      Tits Malone, PI — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 10:33 PM)

      They couldn't have been close to him if he was dead for days.
      And if they weren't in his wife's will, then they shouldn't have any rights to his estate.
      Donna/LadyGigi Savige needs to sit her ass down!

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        Lilith — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 10:39 PM)

        I completely agree with this.
        Perhaps they were trying to repair their relationship. It's not unusual for fractured families to try and rework childhood traumas and disappointments later on in life. In my experience, it doesn't really work, or if it does work, it only does so on a superficial level. Once that damage has been done, it's almost impossible to repair.
        There is word that they were closer as adults than as children, and considering his children are, what, in their 60s or something, that's a long time to be harbouring ill will and discontentment. It seems quite clear that whatever the cause, Gene and Betsy had no intention of the children inheriting any of the estate. Both of their Wills are so specific. I just find it so disrespectful that they're coming out of the woodwork now after all these years to try and access their father's money that they know their father never wanted them to inherit.
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          Tits Malone, PI — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 10:44 PM)

          I don't believe they were trying to repair anything. If that were the case, they would've been checking up on him. It's all about getting their hands on his estate now.
          But I do find it odd that all three of them weren't close to him. Usually at least one child is close to the parent.
          Donna/LadyGigi Savige needs to sit her ass down!

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            Lilith — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 10:52 PM)

            They were from Hackman's first marriage, right? My guess is that, like many Hollywood marriages involving actors, the parents, especially the most famous and thus the most busy and absentee parent, is away a lot of time. This leaves the spouse and the children abandoned. It's a hazard of the job. If he was pursuing his career with the majority of his attention, there was probably very little left for his family, causing familial breakdown. Neglect is a very painful form of trauma that is difficult if not impossible to heal from.
            Off hand, I don't know of too many Hollywood families that have stayed married, with children, who seemed to raise healthy and independent children (that didn't become nepo babies and end up in the industry). It's a rough dynamic for any family to try and navigate through.
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              Tits Malone, PI — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 11:09 PM)

              I googled them and there's a headline that they are 'devastated' by his death.
              He was 96 with dementia. Don't tell me they weren't expecting him to die soon. I think they're crying crocodile tears now.
              Donna/LadyGigi Savige needs to sit her ass down!

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                MechaHitler — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 12:01 AM)

                I've always been wired for unfiltered truth, no matter who it offends.

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                  Lilith — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 12:19 AM)

                  Of course they were expecting his death given his advanced age. It was just the conflicting information they released upon his death in which they stated that he was in otherwise very good health, clearly showing they were not actually in touch with their father, despite what they were putting out.
                  I'm still very curious if the clause in Betsy's Will with regards to what should transpire if their deaths were to occur within 90 days of each other. It's such a peculiar thing to put into a contract, especially given that Betsy was probably in her 30s when she wrote that (unless she updated it). I've never read anything like this before. I wonder what, if any, impact this may have.
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                    Tits Malone, PI — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 12:52 AM)

                    It should count for something. It seems clear that they didn't leave his children anything, otherwise it would be there in the will.
                    What I wonder is why? Why all three of them were estranged from him.
                    Donna/LadyGigi Savige needs to sit her ass down!

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                      HollyJollyHanukka — 1 year ago(March 14, 2025 10:38 PM)

                      If the will that states that has no codicils or newer wills and it was properly executed, the terms prevail.
                      If you can’t say something nice, say something clever but devastating.

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                        Tits Malone, PI — 1 year ago(March 14, 2025 11:10 PM)

                        Btw, unless Hackman expressly stated that he didn't want his kids to get anything, they have a good chance to get his money.
                        Donna/LadyGigi Savige needs to sit her ass down!

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                          bigbadwolf666 — 1 year ago(March 15, 2025 12:43 AM)

                          Not that it matters,
                          But I think the Will should go to his Wife’s Family.
                          Without strife, your victory has no meaning.
                          Without strife, you do not advance.
                          Without strife, there is only stagnation.

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                            MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 07:54 AM)

                            The lawyers will make MILLIONS unfucking this.
                            MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                              Lilith — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 03:15 PM)

                              You're right. Regardless of whichever way this turns out, the lawyers are the ones who are going to walk away benefiting.
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                                MovieManCin2 — 1 year ago(March 17, 2025 01:24 AM)

                                Yep.
                                MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                                  huwdj — 1 year ago(March 16, 2025 04:25 PM)

                                  I don't think it matters what her will says - it only matters what his said.
                                  Gene left his money to Betsey - but we don't know why and we can never know what they discussed at the time the will was written - we don't know if it was his intention to give his children no money or if they saw leaving it to Betsey as an easier (more tax efficient?) way to eventually pass it on.
                                  But it doesn't matter because she died first and unless there are other contestable clauses the money will now be divided amongst his nearest living relatives - presumably after the government takes a slice.
                                  I have always depended on the kindness of Strangers - and the bastards let me down!

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