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MyMovieTVRomance — 12 years ago(November 10, 2013 01:35 AM)
Sorry, but you've got her all wrong
She's not an anti-Semite, she's a pro-Palestinian. She isn't anti-anyone, she's simply siding with Palestine.
I mean, if she was an anti-Semite, if she really had a problem with someone's bloodline, would she have taken in an African orphan as her own informally adopted son? I don't think so.
I know you think she's anti-Israel because of some kind of racism, but she's not. Her stance has everything to do with being fair to the Palestinians and nothing to do with racism. I almost wish it was racism, because then it would make her more flawed/relatable. But, she is far too kind for that. I hope you understand now.
She doesn't hate Jews. She's simply supporting who she views as the underdog, i.e. the Palestinians. She's all about the underdog.
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Salmonit — 12 years ago(November 10, 2013 05:21 AM)
If she supports underdogs, then she can support my NY Mets.
An african orphan has nothing, one way or the other, of judging one to be an anti-semite or not.
In this world of Israel and Palestine, there is no grey areas, there is only black and white. I support Israel would you call me anti-muslim? I believe in the continuance of Israel, not a destruction of it like many extreme Palestinians. The question of this is Emma Thompson supporting the end of a state of Israel or not? Does she want these two peoples to co-exist or the end of Israel? That's the gist of the subject, nothing else. For if she doesn't believe in a state of Israel, then you just might call her an anti-semite. For the end of Israel cannot happen without death of jews and anybody else who lives there. -
greenegg — 12 years ago(November 21, 2013 10:42 PM)
Thompson and many of the rest of us who want to see fair play favor a cessation of violence on both sides (for those of you who seem sadly misinformed, Israel's government has all too often been the aggressor, especially once their government was co-opted by the ultra-Orthodox, who don't even consider many of their fellow Jews "real Jews."). Many of us would like to see a Palestinian state, co-existing with Israel. Nobody likes to have his/her homeland stolen from them, nor to be treated as sub-humans. Many of us don't believe in giving the extreme Zionists a pass just because Jews were persecuted in Europe. Two wrongs never make a right. I'm an agnostic, but I live with a Jewish person and have many Jewish friends. Years ago, when we lived in Metro NY, we often attended high holy days services at the late Sen. Frank Lautenberg's temple in S. Orange. The rather political rabbi during the 90s told us a chilling tale of a Reform Jewish family whose baby daughter died in a car accident near Tel Aviv or Jerusalem; I can't recall which. When they went to bury the child, they were turned away by the ultra-Orthodox leaders who guarded the cemetery. What kind of monsters behave that way? If they hate their fellow Jews so much, then it's not much of a leap for them to annihilate Palestinians. We used to live near a town full of Hasidim; the men always glared at us (no doubt because they didn't approve of seeing middle-aged women without husbands or children, let alone because they disapproved of our short-sleeved T-shirts and pants). I've never trusted any group who treats women as second-class citizens. I don't mind if they want to worship a certain way, but I'll never trust people who look upon women as vile temptresses. Most of my Jewish friends (most of whom are Reform or Conservative) share my views about the Israeli government. Are you going to accuse them of being anti-Semitic?
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dddmi7-1 — 10 years ago(October 03, 2015 11:06 PM)
Amazing how so many people who've never been to Israel or the middle east claim to know so much about the region. I however, have been to Turkey, Egypt, Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. I'm pro-Israel and a Jewish State. I'm not pro-muslim and I'm not afraid to say so. I personally on more than one occasion was treated like a 4th class citizen by pro-Palestinians/muslimse16d0ven by our "friendly" allies.
So no, I don't buy your arguments or pseudo-historical claims about what the people of Israel have/haven't done.
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Fearnotthezone — 11 years ago(February 24, 2015 07:18 AM)
the catholic church grand inquisitor manual, designed to sanction terror during the middle ages was practically copied verbatim first from the gestapo, then from stalin.
there are massive archives full of articles, videos and newspaper photos in which church archbishops and other hierarchy stand side by side with gestapo officers in podiums, doing the zeig heil - zeig heil with one another, witnesed by millions of people.
now why should she not be allowed to point such a correlation between these two 'lost soul' organisations?
after all as your prophets tell you: isn't seeing these proofs, believing that there is not much difference between gestapo and the catholic church? -
Fearnotthezone — 11 years ago(February 27, 2015 12:25 AM)
i honestly cannot say what emma thompson has said about the church or the gestapo or both because those are your words: she talks about the church like it's the gestapo.
but here is what i have to say about the church and the gestapo:
the church has created and shared the same terror tactics as gestapo,
has used the same methods of torture and execution as the gestapo,
was issuing certificates of blood purity long before nazi germany started doing so.
The Nuremberg laws of 1935 can be traced all the way back to the Jewry law of 1268: "The jews are deprived of the protection of their natural rights and condemned to eternal misery for their sins"
I would suggest you read Jonathan Kirsch: The Grand Inquisitor Manual (a history of terror in the name of god)
Also i would suggest you do a research on Google: photos and/or videos of catholic cardinals and archbishops in podiums with gestapo officers making pro nazi speeches and saluting Adolf Hitler.
Am i giving it to you straight Angus-8 or do you want more detailed information and photos?
are you interested to know what Hitler, Stalin and pope Innocent III, all had in common? they all used the same word (filth) about their victims and saw themselves as the cleansing hand of god
Remember that if nazi germany had won the war, the catholic church would still be by it's side. just because they lost, does not mean that the connection they shared is not there. -
Angus-8 — 11 years ago(February 28, 2015 06:08 PM)
No, what I want is for you to support my thesis that Thompson is a demagogue and a bigot. Now, it seems you can't do that directly, but if you can demonstrate the foundations of that demagoguery and bigotry, that's good, too. Thanks.
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Fearnotthezone — 11 years ago(February 28, 2015 07:29 PM)
the church and the gestapo do not need me to demonstrate the foundations of demagoguery and bigotry. they have their own perverts and bloody hands to prove that. but then you already know that since i see you have written a review for:
Hitler: The Last Ten Days (1973)
Anyway i like Emma Thompson, watch all her films and marvel at her command of English language and her use of spoken word. and i really like 'the remains of the day' both the book and the movie. i actually translated and subtitled the movie in the Albanian language together with Pulp Fiction in 2001 precisely because of the different use of language in each film
Good day Angus and thanks for your time -
dkwee — 11 years ago(December 19, 2014 05:47 PM)
indeed these people sneaking in the disgusting assault that is the insult of anti-semitism i know many jews who are extremely critical of israel, even more so than emma thomposon thr16d0owing the word anti-semitism around like hitler-comparisons is hardly political, in fact it is anti-political. it is a cheap and tasteless move that degrades the victims of the holocaust by reducing the evil of the holocaust to something as banal as a critical perception of the politics of israel there is antisemitism and it has been a part of european history and in fact culture and there is a state of israel today, which has a military and quite a military it is, which has a secret service and quite a secret service it is, a police force and authoritarian politicans . and quite they are
being critical of conservative israeli politics, is not only necessary, it s part of a real political discourse. it s part of a democracy and israel is very much funded by european and american states. it is a political issue. not simply an issue between people who are so called anti-semitic and people who are what exactly? pro-israel? reasonable? what do they pretend to be? i am in favor of discourse and asking questions being critical towards institutionalized power.
there needs to be accountability and there need to be people who demand accountability but then there will always be people who will call those who don't comply traitors, or terrorists or antisemites
and there will always be antisemites, as there will always be people who are racists, but how dare these people calling emma thompson an antisemite simply because she asks questions, simply because she dares to let those that suffer speak emma thomposon is engaging a political discourse, people calling her antisemite are trying to shut it up it s appalling..