Why so much women murder?!
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zarch-3 — 16 years ago(September 05, 2009 09:59 AM)
Many of the Argento films hinge around twisted familial relationships between the mother, father and children which sits at the root of the killers psychological disturbances. Its often a examination of the dark psyche not just inexplicable murders of women happening for purely gratuitous reasons. Theres a certain method
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zarch-3 — 16 years ago(September 05, 2009 11:57 AM)
Indeed the females are also pretty handy with a pair of black gloves in Bird with Crystal Plummage, Jennifer, Stendhal you will see some guys getting their asses kicked by women if thats what turns you on.
Asia has never been killed, its Daria who gets whacked in Opera, Inferno & Phenomena -
zarch-3 — 16 years ago(September 05, 2009 01:25 PM)
A couple other of my favorites are in Card Player when the kid survives by the skin of his teeth and then a boat comes to 'rescue' him, lol. Also in Deep Red just as the 'killer' is getting away from the school he accidently gets his foot hooked onto a rope attached to a moving vehiclehehe talk about bad luck
Another favorite is the woman who starts the fire in Inferno, she goes up in flames crashes through a window then lands inside a skylight and later on Dario cuts back to a shot of her burning at full force -
zarch-3 — 16 years ago(September 05, 2009 01:59 PM)
I think there were some opportunities to have Asia die but Dario chose not to for instance Stendhal, Trauma but you're right in that his films aren't really tragedies they seem to end with uplifting scenes. Ultimately he believes in the good of human nature
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SuperDevilDoctor — 16 years ago(September 16, 2009 03:26 AM)
The unrated cut of MOTHER OF TEARS is certainly Argento's goriest film (and also probably his worst). But TENEBRE has a whopping
eleven
on-camera murders!
Luxuriate in the eclectic
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clow987 — 16 years ago(September 07, 2009 01:54 AM)
Just finished Phenomena, best lead I found, she was pretty intelligent, plus Jeniffer Connely was and still is a very attractive actress. Also violence was pretty tame compared to the other films I've watched of his. How can anyone bad mouth the ending? Monkey revenge is freaking epic!!! I found it to have a good mix of B movie comedy and acting while still being a grade A product, fairy tale qualities and some very creepy moments.
Seems most of his less gorey work is also his worst, Card Player sucked, although so did Stendhal.
Up next is Deep Red which I hear is his best but most violent, but eh I'm sure there's been worse, but I really enjoy the soundtracks in his movies even the bad ones. -
ofumalow — 16 years ago(January 05, 2010 08:15 PM)
Not to defend Argentowho is no doubt a pretty weird guybut frankly the commercial logistics of the horror market require sexy young women to be the primary victims. Depressing, but it's true. I don't know if Argento is misogynist or just following commercial precedent. It's true that some of his most brutal killing scenes (esp. "Opera") have been of men. But they're still in the minority.
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scarletminded — 16 years ago(March 28, 2010 06:28 AM)
To answer clow-987 original question: "Do any of his films have a little less gore but still as much style and flare?"
Yes, The Card Player and Do You Like Hitchcock? (the last was a TV movie) have less gore and more plot. And they are actually good. I watched both of them this weekend and could watch them again.
Why does he kill more women?
Well, most horror movie victims are women and crime shows like Criminal Minds and Medium usually show more violence aimed towards women, so I wouldn't think Argento is the only one to blame!
I guess in general, more violence happens to women than men in the real world and that is reflected like a mirror into the movies.
And plus, Argento's mother left him. So this abandonment might bleed into his filmwork as a catharsis.
But he really does murder a lot of men in his movies too. -
creaturefeeture — 14 years ago(October 21, 2011 12:46 PM)
Well, most horror movie victims are women and crime shows like Criminal Minds and Medium usually show more violence aimed towards women, so I wouldn't think Argento is the only one to blame!
I guess in general, more violence happens to women than men in the real world and that is reflected like a mirror into the movies.
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chrisjackson1 — 15 years ago(May 25, 2010 06:50 PM)
Read his biothere is a quote that addresses this question. But think about horror movies for a seconddon't they all favor women as the victim? Men are too powerful physically to care as strongly about, children are too weak to make worthy victimswomen are the best of both. Generally weaker physically than their attackers, yet as smart and strong mentally as their male counterparts. Plus as Dario said, we would rather see a beautiful woman as the victim than an ugly woman or a mansimply for aesthetic reasons.
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ilon — 14 years ago(August 19, 2011 05:54 PM)
Because you can't see the murdered men
I think it has nothing to do with misogyny
Maybe someone want you to see that way.
I would call it "cliche".
If it was the opposite way Would you be thinking: Why so much men murder?
I don't think so In fact, you don't.
Saving private Ryan is full of murdered men.
In the end is always murdered people. Who cares about the sex of the victim? That would be sexism.
Horror is full of murdered women, and is full of murdered men, and full of heroes and heroines And maybe the greatest heroines are in the horror genre